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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Mar 22, 2007 - 07:32pm PT
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"They're made out of meat."
"Meat?"
"Meat. They're made out of meat."
"Meat?"
"There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."
"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?"
"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."
"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."
"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."
"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."
"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they're made out of meat."
"Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."
"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take long. Do you have any idea what's the life span of meat?"
"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."
"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."
"No brain?"
"Oh, there's a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat! That's what I've been trying to tell you."
"So ... what does the thinking?"
"You're not understanding, are you? You're refusing to deal with what I'm telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat."
"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"
"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?"
"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."
"Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."
"Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?"
"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual."
"We're supposed to talk to meat."
"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.' That sort of thing."
"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"
"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."
"I thought you just told me they used radio."
"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."
"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"
"Officially or unofficially?"
"Both."
"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."
"I was hoping you would say that."
"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2007 - 07:59pm PT
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Ouch is on a roll again. BUT, THOSE AREN'T TIGHTS.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 22, 2007 - 08:05pm PT
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At least the turtles are trying to 'evolve'. Nice one Ouch!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 23, 2007 - 12:35am PT
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the meat thing is all too true...
...John, if you accept the "witness" then it it might be hard to come up with a physical explanation. However, the veracity of a "witness" is highly questionable. It is not to say that the witness isn't convinced, but it is to say that this sort of evidence is likely to be in error.
It is strange to me that the testimony of a witness carries so much weight, especially when we know how fallible our observations can be.
I think it is unlikely that any such thing has occured. But it is just my opinion. I am unconvinced of any of the evidence that I know about. And the idea that the US government, or any other organization made up of more than 1 person could keep a secret like that is absurd.
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quietpartner
Trad climber
Moantannah
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Mar 23, 2007 - 12:41am PT
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Ever since a friend dressed in an ape costume with road reflectors for eyes and stood beside a twisty canyon highway in Utah scaring the crap out of people, which was reported on KSL news as an unexplained phenomonon....
I've been skeptical about Bigfoot, and by extrapolation, aliens.
But who knows?
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Mar 23, 2007 - 01:01am PT
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Ed wrote: "...John, if you accept the "witness" then it it might be hard to come up with a physical explanation. However, the veracity of a "witness" is highly questionable. It is not to say that the witness isn't convinced, but it is to say that this sort of evidence is likely to be in error.
It is strange to me that the testimony of a witness carries so much weight, especially when we know how fallible our observations can be.
I think it is unlikely that any such thing has occured."
Same here. The witness thing seems unlikely and unreliable -unless there's a whole shitload of folks who explain the same thing, then at the very least we have something psychologically interesting, like a mass hallucination or something.
But my sense of this thing is that the French have some sightings that are recorded on radar et al and it is these that seem most difficult to dismiss out of hand.
Apparently there's no way to really know, unless you believe wacky stuff about the "government" hiding alien corpses and so forth. Like any group of people--especially the government-could ever keep this kind of secret. That's what makes me laugh at conspiracy theories about various governments supressing the "truth." I really don't believe any group of people on the face of the earth could EVER keep quiet about actual UFOs, if there was hard evidence they actually existed.
UFO's are still an interesting but remote thought.
But who knows, really . . . Not me.
JL
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Juanito Bandito
Mountain climber
the end of the earth
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Mar 23, 2007 - 01:48am PT
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I am from France
May I use your toillette ?
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Mar 23, 2007 - 11:39am PT
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 15, 2010 - 06:26am PT
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Don't kid yourself - they're out there and they're coming because there have no more FAs left on their planet. They want your project...
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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May 15, 2010 - 09:13am PT
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not a very serious discussion here--too bad.
if you've seen "the mothman prophecies", spend a little dirtbag pence on the book on which it's based. the movie ain't bad, but it's just a sketch of some very credible nonfiction writing.
these things happen in what author john keel calls "flaps". there's often quite intense activity, but then it abruptly dies down. there are many substantiated reports. sometimes people get so excited they start a religion over it, like seventh day adventism or jehovah witnessing.
"men in black" was based on the same flap of mothman, in the ohio river valley in the late 1960s. lots of people saw these things. lots of strange things went on. lots of men in black suits driving black cars showing up across the countryside following the happenings.
the conclusion a lot of people leap to is extraterrestial. the second one is secret government activities. keel's reporting is impressively rigorous. he makes a simple observation--can't draw any conclusions about it, but he gets the feeling that it's "of the earth," and it seems to go back in history, if you reinterpret certain myths and miracles.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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May 15, 2010 - 09:38am PT
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A friend of mine was walking on the beach with 2 others and he said that he and one of the others saw a flying saucer-the 3rd guy did not see it
His first thought was that there are things we have not learned yet. I am not going to name the guy but he is not a person that would crank up a lie about something like that just to goof me.
Never seen one myself,
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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May 15, 2010 - 09:53am PT
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We need to have a meating about this issue...
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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May 15, 2010 - 10:06am PT
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So THIS IS a %$X@* weenie roast?
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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May 15, 2010 - 10:11am PT
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Is the guy in Ouch's picture the old codger in J Tree?
I call conspiracy.
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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May 15, 2010 - 11:32am PT
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G_nome, how about posting a credit to the extensive short story you are so often reposting?
I think it was stolen from Terry Bissonn, from a short story printed in Omni Magizine in 1990 or 91.
You keep posting it and some people (like me) think that you should credit someone when you steal such a huge chunk of their work, at the very least. Other people seem almost to think that its YOUR work.
put a lid on it, meat brain.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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May 15, 2010 - 01:10pm PT
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copy-write?
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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May 15, 2010 - 01:38pm PT
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I especially like the accounts from your super kooks - the one's claiming alien sex and the wholesale filching of "precious bodily fluids." Or the space crafts that "look like a cigar, only bigger," or the cyclops aliens, or the ones with big ass plumber's helpers on their hands.
I wrote about a purported UFO sighting on top of Mt. Watkins like ten or fifteen years ago and I wish I could find the passage.
This is some pay dirt, I'm telling you . . .
JL
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