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ron gomez
Trad climber
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May 13, 2019 - 05:43am PT
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Thanks for the heads up, will be sad if this goes....so much history, so many stories, it bonded a community and allowed for renewed friendships.
Thanks Chris....do what is best for you and your crew, i feel a lot of us get it.
Peace
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climbski2
Mountain climber
The Ocean
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May 13, 2019 - 06:44am PT
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Thank you Chris.
The writing was on the wall anyway. I'll copy some of the stuff I have here that I wrote. What little is of any real value lol.
My deep respect for the time and effort you put into making a great campfire as long as it has lasted.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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May 13, 2019 - 07:09am PT
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Thanks to Supertopo I was able to reconnect with the climbing world and old friends after many years away, resolve a lot of karma, be entertained by our history, learn a lot of science and stretch my intellect in many other ways on the What is Mind thread. It's inspiring how many different niches ST occupied in my life. Nothing will ever replace it.
Please give us as much advance notice as possible before closing. A deadline always inspires action even though I had already been downloading my favorite threads.
And do consider putting the historical material into some kind of archive.
Many thanks for the wonderful years I was able to participate.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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May 13, 2019 - 07:37am PT
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Thanks for the update Chris.
Are you CONSIDERING sale of the domain and forum? Or is that too difficult due to being somehow interconnected with the gear review site?
If not, this would actually be a great time for someone to launch a new climbing site if they wanted to. If I had funding, I would. But I don't, so I can't. If somebody who does have funding wants a creative "ideas person" on their team, I'm happy to brainstorm(for a percentage of the forum income). Contact me through TalismanToo.Etsy.com.
If anyone thinks it's just "old men" here, they are wrong. There is a sizable amount of lurkers. I know from meeting people all the time who don't post, or post very little, but still read the forums. Maybe not enough to make a site financially workable, but that doesn't mean a site that IS financially workable isn't possible.
Although if said person insists that being able to be jerks and nasty and threaten others is part of the equation for success, not going to be sustainable and I wouldn't be interested. If you need to be as#@&%es, there's Youtube. Have at it.
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ddriver
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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May 13, 2019 - 07:53am PT
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Other forums enable user donations instead of paid memberships. Seems a better fit for this group. Hold a fundraising drive once or twice a year using paypal or whatever works for you.
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John M
climber
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May 13, 2019 - 08:02am PT
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I'm guessing its less about the money and more about the hassle. Its like being on the board of an HOA or on a city planning board. Too many headaches because its impossible to please everyone. Its pretty weird how much hatred this place can generate. Its gotta be hard dealing with that all the time.
But yep.. I would donate if that would help.
Thanks for all of your effort Guys!
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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May 13, 2019 - 08:06am PT
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Other forums enable user donations Yes, I agree and have seen this appear to work well enough.
Another thing I've seen is for a forum to pick up a few primary sponsors - like REI and MP.com, but not necessarily as formal or in an ownership sense.
This all reeks of contemplating options to deal with some lawsuit threat.
I don't know how he'd separate the cost of the forum from the cost of the site as a whole to support his guidebook business - other than the soft cost of maintenance time.
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MGuzzy
Trad climber
Orangevale
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May 13, 2019 - 08:10am PT
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Thanks for your efforts Chris, RJ and everyone else working on the backend.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 13, 2019 - 08:14am PT
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I doubt the dirtbags would make a fundraiser worth holding. They’ve clearly not responded adequately to the gay cruise and Bentley ads.
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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May 13, 2019 - 08:17am PT
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Appreciate the 18 years of work you put in. Has been great entertainment but nothing lasts forever. I agree with comment above that domain name should be turned over to someone who wants to take the reins.
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Da-Veed
Big Wall climber
Bigfork
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May 13, 2019 - 08:23am PT
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Thanks Chris for all you have done, I have been on this site since the beginning (I have changed my login a few times). I hope it doesn't go away but with all the political BS I see on here in the last few years I would fully understand.
I kinda feel like I'm being broken up with!
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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May 13, 2019 - 08:47am PT
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Three words: Go Fund Me
I'll absolutely contribute. Set a goal; let it rip.
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limpingcrab
Gym climber
Minkler, CA
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May 13, 2019 - 08:52am PT
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I guess it holds true
Lawsuits ruin everything
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telemon01
Trad climber
Montana
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May 13, 2019 - 09:18am PT
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People say herding cats is difficult -
Well Cmac has gone one further by herding monkeys
Well done Chris, thank you for creating the Supertopo Universe.
I’ve learned a lot and have enjoyed my time here
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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May 13, 2019 - 09:31am PT
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Thanks Chris for taking the time to touch base with "the people." We appreciate the effort you've put into keeping this place a living breathing thing over the years.
It will be a real tragedy if it goes. It's the virtual Camp 4 of the climbing world and there's no denying it.
Hopefully somebody will create another genuine online place to hang out, meet good people, slander a bit and enjoy the stoke from behind the keyboard when we can't be outside. It's my hope you realize the worth of this place and the real relationships that have been made from this forum.
Because of this place and this place alone
I've.....
Attempted El Cap and sat on many summits with Mark Hudon
Fished the East Walker and Hot Creek with Stimbo
Become close personal friends with Limpingcrab (pros and cons..)
Caught the biggest trout of my life on Pyramid Lake with WTF
Bushwacked through poison Oak forests with Jaybro
Ran into more than a handful of Supertopo users on Tuolumne or Valley routes and have always enjoyed the random "Hey! You're Micronut! I love your trip reports!"
All of these were complete strangers before The Taco and I'm grateful to now call them friends.
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Gunks Guy
Trad climber
New Paltz
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May 13, 2019 - 10:18am PT
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Chris,
Please consider gofundme if it's really the cost issue.
If it's more complicated than that, any chance of releasing it open source or public domain? I bet there are people here with skills that would be willing to keep it going.
In any case, thanks for doing this for the community for all those years.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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May 13, 2019 - 10:23am PT
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Thanks, Chris.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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May 13, 2019 - 11:04am PT
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Thanks Chris! This has been a terrific service to a large community. I personally have learned so much history, met or reconnected with many good folks, and got turned on to some great places/climbs. If a funding model gets adopted/attempted, I will certainly be on board to contribute.
best, Mike
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matty
Trad climber
under the sea
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May 13, 2019 - 11:37am PT
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Having a membership due or a verified membership program might help prevent people from trolling and posting inappropriate/copyrighted material...but that would also discourage new users from posting/joining. Dunno the answer but I'm sure many of us here would be willing to pay in one form or another to help run the site depending on the details.
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