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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Aug 24, 2018 - 01:41am PT
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Might be a simple landslide. Not even remotely possible from the pictures although it could maybe be a really complicated landslide involving an explosion.
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Wildincognito
climber
Eastside
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Aug 24, 2018 - 01:44am PT
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If it is man made- would it be considered trundling?
I hear you can get a ticket/ fine for that...
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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Aug 24, 2018 - 04:22am PT
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Put the Mormon book on ebay and ask for $10,000. Be sure to include a certificate of what happened.
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Todd Eastman
Social climber
Putney, VT
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Aug 24, 2018 - 06:30am PT
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Rock glacier melt down?
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2018 - 06:50am PT
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The debris flows looks like a burp. Wrong type of rock for volcanic.
Probably what is being speculated. Anyone have time to put together a class action lawsuit?
Maybe a somewhat unauthorized test of one of our tunneling bunker-buster bombs?
As pointed out earlier, I think it would look different if a meteor strike.
Anyone interested in the collapsed alien base theory, I've got some good ones for you here in the mountains above LA. Really wild geology. Up there on Strawberry Peak. I'm not a subscriber myself. This one almost lines up with the map from "Behold a Pale Horse."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 24, 2018 - 08:01am PT
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I think it would look different if a meteor strike
Can we talk BDA? I admit I am a bit puzzled by the seeming lack of peripheral ejecta but given the slope angle and the possibly loose consistency the downwards ‘flow pattern’ does hold water, to coin a phrase. I still say a 500 pounder.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2018 - 08:46am PT
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There are two posts on the Idaho Outdoor forum Altair Peak thread that mention jets in the area.
I thought those posts might be from Idaho folks "jest" having some fun with the crater's sudden appearance.
I now know this post:
My co-worker Bruce was hiking into Betty Lake and heard a significant booming sound. He had also heard jets flying around. He's pretty convinced it was bombed. But it could have just been the sound of it slumping and the jets were coincidental.
is from a Ketchum-Sun Valley outdoor shop co-owner, who is almost certainly telling the truth.
Maybe the Air Force was bombing a space-alien base?
Strange things happen right-here in Choss Creek!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 24, 2018 - 08:49am PT
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Cosmic, it looks 50’ in diameter to me - perfectly plausible for a 500 that penetrated 20’.
It’s too perfectly circular to be anything other than a bomb.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2018 - 09:16am PT
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I flew Google Earth into Altair Peak & per this snipe showing the area pre-crater, measured my best local's guess as to the size of the new crater. Per the horizontal red line, Google Earth measurement is about 350' wide.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 24, 2018 - 01:51pm PT
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They usually use dumb and/or light ones for practice but they do use the expensive ones too.
Hey, it ain’t their money, izzit? Really hard to fathom one getting loosed on a nondescript
mountain in Idaho unless the pilot knew his wife was cheatin’ on him and her boyfriend was up there.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Aug 24, 2018 - 01:57pm PT
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reily. don't they ocasionaly have mechanical problems like a bad light on the dash so they dump the ordinance before return to base avoiding landing a not perfectly functioning plane with live ord on board???
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 24, 2018 - 02:16pm PT
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Of course, but almost any pilot would auger in before he dropped live ordnance on an
unknown location, even in Idaho! If things were that bad it is better to leave the ord on board
and aim the hulk as well as possible before exiting. That makes cleanup better too. 😉
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2018 - 02:18pm PT
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WTF! Per your mention:
Fritz here In Nevada the whole states a bombing range. It’s time Idaho took a few practice rounds for the cause ya know. Whatever cause that is I’m not sure but on average a day spent in central Nevada and you can hear a few hundred thousand bucks worth of bombs go off. Or maybe a million but I’m not sure on cost. Can’t be cheap.
I do appreciate that Nevada is a bombing range, but Idaho's Mountain Home AFB is about 50 miles west of Choss Creek & their bombing range is much closer to us. Heidi jokes that we know the next war is about to start, when the big booms west of us sharply increase.
A few years back, we were out looking at petroglyphs on their electronic warfare range, which is open to the public, & found this fake industrial site, for them to practice bombing runs on.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 24, 2018 - 03:23pm PT
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Show me a scale. No more than 75’.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Aug 24, 2018 - 03:28pm PT
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It's a classic rotational slump.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2018 - 03:44pm PT
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Reilly! Per your thoughts on the size of the crater:
Show me a scale. No more than 75’.
Sorrry, but you missed my post & photo on crater size. Think "big" lad! That's a "big" mountain, for Idaho.
I flew Google Earth into Altair Peak & per this snipe showing the area pre-crater, measured my best local's guess as to the size of the new crater. Per the horizontal red line, Google Earth measurement is about 350' wide.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2018 - 05:50pm PT
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Here's a map view to help you out on size. It is about 1,450 vertical feet & about 1/2 mile from Betty Lake to the summit, with my guess on the crater site being about, my lopsided red circle.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 24, 2018 - 06:15pm PT
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Fritz, I saw it but I don’t agree with yer BDA. 75’ - 100’ tops.
The only question is wuzzit a 500 or a 1000 pounder. You need
to git yer butt up there!
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Aug 24, 2018 - 07:13pm PT
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Or maybe just apostrophes.....
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2018 - 08:00pm PT
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Reilly: I sigh for your lost map-reading ability. Those minor contour lines on the topo are 40' vertical apart & the thicker ones are 200' vertical apart.
Per your mention:
You need
to git yer butt up there!
It's too-damn smoky in Idaho to want to hike anywhere at present.
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