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Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2018 - 09:54pm PT
I sigh for those who think Trump is making America Great again.

It's always been great, but less-so under Trump's addled mis-leadership.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. consumer sentiment fell to an 11-month low in early August, with households expressing concerns about the rising cost of living, potentially signaling a slowdown in consumer spending.

The University of Michigan on Friday said its consumer sentiment index fell to a reading of 95.3 early this month, the weakest since September 2017, from 97.9 in July. The survey’s current conditions sub-index of consumer expectations dropped to 107.8 from July’s reading of 114.4.

It said the decline in sentiment was concentrated among households in the bottom third of the income distribution.

“The dominating weakness reflected much less favorable assessments of buying conditions, mainly due to less favorable perceptions of market prices,” said Richard Curtin, the University of Michigan Surveys of Consumers chief economist.

“Buying conditions for large household durables sank to the lowest level in nearly four years.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-confidence/u-s-consumer-sentiment-falls-to-11-month-low-idUSKBN1L21N6
Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
Aug 17, 2018 - 09:55pm PT
LOL... You guys must have some very precise clocks on your walls up there, Anders. : )

Enjoy your dinner tomorrow, and don’t be late!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2018 - 10:01pm PT
And Cosmic! I am sad for your preconceptions about me.

Aug 17, 2018 - 09:54pm PT
Why am I not surprised that the LIBTARD has come up with another
devisive Political Thread?

#SADDER


How can you forget that I am a registered Republican & on Trump's advisory board? That must grate on your radical right, & thin-skin.

dirtbag

climber
Aug 17, 2018 - 10:09pm PT
Sweet?

Welll...hugs and kisses to y’all.
John M

climber
Aug 18, 2018 - 12:46am PT
If you say things just to piss people off, or to troll them, then you are probably going to be outed.


....

So the Trump thread was locked? And here I thought people had decided to take a break from politics. hahaha..

Edit; I liked the taco because most people knew who was who. Few people hid their id. We even have a thread dedicated to who was who. The taco spawned many get togethers such as Sushi fest. I have met quite a few people on the taco. Sure people used ids other then there names, but it wasn't hard to find out who was who, for the most part.

Now we have a number of people, especially on the political threads, that like to insult people and hide behind a false id. If you are going to say stuff, especially about other people, then you should have to courage to put your real name out there.
John M

climber
Aug 18, 2018 - 12:59am PT
I don't believe that completely Cosmic. Maybe to some degree. He likes talking about politics after all. If he wanted to stir things up, then he wouldn't have used a generic thread title.
John M

climber
Aug 18, 2018 - 01:11am PT
you are free to interpret it anyway that you want Dwain. I would say that would say more about you then about Fritz. You spent 8 years insulting Obama and Hillary and anyone who voted for them. So maybe you should toughen up, or learn a different way of being.



Edit: How are your wife and children at risk?
John M

climber
Aug 18, 2018 - 01:50am PT
As for Hillary and Obama you go back 8 years I wasn't even talking politics then. So you too are making sh#t up.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=562367&msg=562655#msg562655

Don't be delusional Cosmic. This is what? your 3rd or 4rth ID. you have been posting and insulting people since I have been on the forum. this is my second ID.. I got rid of my first. I started here in 2007.

I am in no way defending those who toss out such ugliness as you quoted. But to say you didn't insult people until you said that you would vote for Trump is kind of nuts. I know you insulted me many times about Hillary and Obama. And that has been going on for years.

Edit:
I can't search for your ID that was deleted either when you asked to be deleted or were deleted by the moderators, but I'm certain plenty of people here would remember. Its also not possible to search the threads that were deleted completely.
Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Aug 18, 2018 - 02:05am PT



ATG

Big Wall climber
Wherever you are not

Aug 17, 2018 - 11:57pm PT
F*#k this place.

Supertaco is dead to me.

You. Dont. Post. Peoples real names.

Motherf*#kers.

I hate you know.

James. I will be looking for you.
And when I find you, I am going to make you regret that.

That's real life.



If that wasn't James, then you stupid mother f*#kera ought to think twice about what you post because he is my best guess and I know what climbing gym he frequents.

It's on your hands now.





ATG

Big Wall climber
Wherever you are not

Aug 18, 2018 - 01:08am PT
By posting my real name, you guys put my wife and children at risk. That's something I would actually murder over.

This place is a cesspool.

I hope you all rot.
I found james on Facebook. I know where he works and what gym he hangs out at.

I do not even use my real name on Facebook and some mother f*#ker posted here and references my yelp page.

Are you out of your f*#king mind???








What a fvcking snowflake.

It is soooo ironic that it happened on the name-dropping thread you started [and have now deleted (though it’s not really deleted.)]

Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2018 - 08:40am PT
Dear Sweet, misunderstood Cosmic, who never said anything unkind about Obama, & the below post was jest a joke.


You are starting to lie & bluster nearly as much as your hero Trump.
HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Aug 18, 2018 - 08:46am PT
Cosmic +1
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 18, 2018 - 10:59am PT
How about sticking to climbing and outdoorsy stuff.... even vans and souls.

1 month timeout for anyone who starts another politard thread.

They just end up a bitching echo chambers sprinkled with links to other bitching chambers.
Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Aug 18, 2018 - 11:01am PT
^ ^ ^

Kinda like a middle school hall monitor.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2018 - 11:42am PT
The forlorn & forgotten Republicans, who don't like Trump & know the Republican party is going in the wrong direction.

The forgotten Republicans — people like former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, South Carolina Rep. Mark Sanford and Ohio Gov. John Kasich — have been unwilling to sit quietly as Trump steers the GOP away from free trade, fiscal responsibility, consistent foreign policy and civility.

Isolation and political exile have been their rewards.

Their diminished roles leave fewer Republican leaders willing to challenge Trump under any circumstances, even in his darkest moments.

Fact checkers have recorded an extraordinary level of false and misleading statements flowing out of the White House. And beyond dishonesty, some of the forgotten have decried a disturbing pattern of racially charged rhetoric on issues like immigration, NFL anthem protests and Confederate monuments.

"White nationalism isn't something I'm ever going to be comfortable with. But it is embraced by, or simply doesn't bother, a lot of Republicans," said former Ohio Republican Party chairman Matt Borges, once a Trump confidant who was forced from his leadership post after criticizing Trump in the weeks leading up to the 2016 election.

After Trump's victory, Borges returned to practicing law, while he continues to play a modest role in local politics.

"To me, it became a matter of how much of your soul are you willing to sell. I would be the wrong person to be leading this party right now," Borges said.

Gallup found that 82 percent of Republicans approved of the president's job performance earlier this month. That's compared to just 34 percent of independents and 7 percent of Democrats.

Kasich, who has not ruled out a primary bid against Trump in 2020, said the president's approval is misleading because the universe of people identifying as Republican is shrinking.

"We're dealing with a remnant of the Republican Party. The party is not what it was," Kasich said in an interview.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-warnings-grow-from-forgotten-republicans/ar-BBM4y7K?li=BBnb7Kz&pfr=1

John M

climber
Aug 18, 2018 - 12:46pm PT
Cosmic,

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I believe that your judgment of me is based on your unwillingness to forgive me for what you termed being singled out for your behavior. I did come after you, but that was because I believed that you did love God, and hence would be open to seeing your behavior. I may have hit you a little hard, but you were one of the few people on the forum who professed a faith in God and who seemed to truly believe. There isn't much point in going after people who don't believe in God with faith based arguments because they have no basis of understanding. I did not go after other people based on their fatih, because there are few others. Cragman is the only other purported Christina whom I took to task. I did not single out conservatives, even though you seem to believe that. I did try to get others to change their behavior. I could give you a long list of liberals that I have tried to talk to. I have learned that it is mostly pointless, so I will cease and desist. That includes you.

As for forgiving me. I did apologize, but since you don't accept it, I will apologize again. I am sorry if you felt like I was harsh towards you concerning your faith. I at no time ever defended sharprema. In fact I reported her to the mods for her behavior towards you. What I did do was try to get you to see your behavior. If I went too far, then I apologize.

As for your belief that you only became rude towards liberals after they attacked you for voting for trump, then I would say that you have a difficulty in seeing your own behavior. You have projected that on to me, but I see myself clearly, as I did apologize previous and did stop going after you concerning your faith. Behave as you wish. I leave you in God's capable hands.

John

Edit: yesterday I deleted some of my posts to you because it seemed like it was just a side argument, but since you keep saying things about me here, I felt I should post.
Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Aug 18, 2018 - 02:06pm PT
Weeks after President Donald Trump moved to keep California from applying its own stringent regulations to auto emissions, White House officials indicated that the president would soon unveil a plan to give several other states the right to self-regulate regarding pollution—but the states in question this time are coal producers, and Trump's proposal is likely to cause an explosion in emission rates as well as a worsening of the climate crisis.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/18/trumps-immoral-plan-allow-coal-states-self-regulate-could-send-365-million-tons
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2018 - 02:40pm PT
The Trump adminstration is touting a recent Rasmussen poll that 36% of blacks support Trump. It's just another lie.


Analysis: No, one-third of African Americans don’t support Trump. Not even close.

President Trump has recently faced renewed allegations of racism.

Many critics have argued that Trump’s attacks on the intelligence of such prominent African Americans as LeBron James, Don Lemon, Maxine Waters, and Omarosa Manigault Newman were rooted in racism. Manigault Newman has also made headlines for claiming that Trump is a racist who uses the n-word.

The White House regularly responds to accusations of racism by noting that black unemployment is at historic lows under Trump’s presidency. Sarah Huckabee Sanders even cited some wildly inaccurate statistics on black employment from the White House podium this week to defend the president from charges of racial bias. She later acknowledged the error.

Trump has also attempted to inoculate himself from charges of racism by selectively citing polling numbers, which suggest he’s remarkably popular for a Republican president among African Americans. The president, for example, retweeted these polling numbers from Rasmussen on Wednesday:

Rasmussen Reports
✔ @Rasmussen_Poll
Today’s @realDonaldTrump approval ratings among black voters: 36%
This day last year: 19% http://bit.ly/preztrack @POTUS @realDonaldTrump
9:19 AM - Aug 15, 2018


It might seem far-fetched that over a third of African Americans would now approve of a president with a very long history of racial insensitivity — especially because fewer than 10 percent of black voters supported him in 2016.

That’s because it is far-fetched. Trump’s black approval rating is nowhere near 36 percent.

Polling firms that have interviewed far more African Americans, and that are much more transparent than Rasmussen, all show that Trump’s black approval rating is much lower than 36 percent.

For example, Gallup has interviewed thousands of African American respondents in 2018. Its polling suggests that Trump’s black approval rating has consistently been around 10 to 15 percent through 2018.

The same is true in polling by Ipsos/Reuters:


Similarly, the polling firm Civiqs, which has interviewed more than 140,000 respondents in 2017 and 2018, suggests that Trump’s black approval rating has consistently been in the single-digits throughout his presidency.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-no-one-third-of-african-americans-don%e2%80%99t-support-trump-not-even-close/ar-BBM2zUU?li=BBnb7Kz

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Aug 18, 2018 - 02:51pm PT
Wait till trump's Nigger tape gets played on Fox news...That'll boost his african american support...
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Aug 18, 2018 - 03:47pm PT
Derp, Durp, Dirp, Dyrp

This thread is like one of those sticky fly strips that get hung in pit toilets, that finally get so full you have to toss them because they no longer catch any more flies. The flies just keep buzzing around annoying the crap out of you.

Then someone has to throw them out.

And then it starts all over again....

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Aug 18, 2018 - 03:51pm PT
The flies just keep on buzzing...In the dungeon of dispair...
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