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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 25, 2018 - 09:29am PT
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Yup! Close 'em down! NOW!
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2018 - 09:37am PT
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A bigger question is, why have so many Americans allowed the NRA to try and take the whole Gun Control Issue hostage with their furthering extremism?
By working for maximal availability of weapons the NRA is facilitating terror. And the biggest contribution to terror comes from occupation of foreign territory... The more weapons sold, the more conflict. The more conflict, the more weapons sold. Occupation of foreign territory and conflict is a treasure to the NRA.
Perhaps in the long run the biggest threat to the Second Amendment inadvertently and by their own actions may be the NRA themselves.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Mar 25, 2018 - 09:43am PT
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those young people marching and protesting inaction on mass slaughter are smart and brave, I admire them
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Mar 25, 2018 - 09:58am PT
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With Bolton the POTUS has gotten someone who will supply him with the war he need to have a chance to gain popularity in at least half the American population..
trump wants a legacy. Something for people to remember him by, even if it leads to WWIII.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Mar 25, 2018 - 12:31pm PT
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Mar 25, 2018 - 12:44pm PT
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Add “petition” and “ association” to first amendment freedoms that libtards hate. Thugs.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 25, 2018 - 01:27pm PT
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^^^
Only a matter of time before the bot showed up.
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Lassitude 33
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Mar 25, 2018 - 01:39pm PT
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Many of these young people will be voting this November. It is inspiring to see the youth engage in the political process, exercise their freedom to express their opinion, and not succumb to apathy and defeatism being proffered by the gun lobby and their shills.
The NRA, whose only aim is to support gun manufacturers to sell more guns and ammo, has resisted any common sense gun regulation, spread fear and lies, and is morally bankrupt. It is about time that they were called out on it.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Mar 25, 2018 - 02:25pm PT
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Add “petition” and “ association” to first amendment freedoms that libtards hate. Thugs.
oh come on how, Latuya
both your prior and now this new attempt to state exactly what the political right does not like about the political left are failures in vague platitudes
try again, be specific,
ps, don't try hypocrisy, it works both ways, that is not a unique "dislike"
here is an example - we rightists do not agree that women should be paid the same as men for the same work, that is why we voted against the Lilly Fair Pay Act
This angers us so much that we have decided to hate "liberals" for passing it
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jogill
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Colorado
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Mar 25, 2018 - 04:19pm PT
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those young people marching and protesting inaction on mass slaughter are smart and brave, I admire them
So do I. Let's hope they don't lose interest and move on to other things in their lives a couple of years from now.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Mar 25, 2018 - 04:36pm PT
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The Court in Heller, with Scalia writing the opinion, has already affirmed restrictions
(2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose:
The court is not the problem, the politicians are.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 25, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
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Hate to beat a whooped horse but there’s lotsa guns in Canuckistan and Switzerland.
Why aren’t they crazy and killin’ each other? They got the firepower! What’s stoppin’
‘em, sanity?
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 25, 2018 - 06:07pm PT
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The Constitution gives the right to bear arms, but it also says we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It seems that some NRA people feel that the 2nd amendment trumps the right to life.
Having said that, gun ownership is a complex subject. In Brazil, they have only a fraction of the amount of guns that we do, but their homicide rate is 5-6 times as high as ours.
I applaud the interest being shown by these young people, but guns are only a part of the equation. There is a homicide in this Country about every 35 minutes, and a large portion of them are done to persons by those who have a close relationship with them. For example, about 30% of the women murder victims are done in by their husbands. I am glad these young people are concerned, but I hope they take time to really study the subject and come up with the most effective solutions for reducing violence. Rates of violent crime are dropping. If you look at this chart:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/187592/death-rate-from-homicide-in-the-us-since-1950/
It is surprising that the homicide rates in 1980 were much larger than, for example in 2015. Still, the approx. 13,000 homicides we have now are a lot.
There was a very informative piece in a Miami paper by a doctor who treated gunshot wounds. He said that if a bullet from a handgun hits a major organ, the injury is often survivable, but that a single round from an AR-15 rifle wipes out the entire organ, and almost invariably results in a fatality.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Mar 25, 2018 - 07:28pm PT
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Rick Sanatorium is insane.
In a representative form of government, a group of people elect a person to represent them. The people are expected to communicate their needs and wants to the representative, who then acts on their behalf.
Sanatorium is saying that people shouldn't petition their representatives for change, but instead should find a way, on their own, to compensate for an adverse, distressing and dangerous situation.
I've never been a member of the NRA, but have been around guns all my life. I don't think extreme gun laws make any sense, but some regulation does make sense.
Any tool or invention can be used as a weapon. The first time a caveman sharpened a stick to hunt food, he also threw it at his neighbor. Even the internet, Facebook and other computer systems have been weaponized.
Limiting access to one form of weapon is not going to stop people from hurting each other. It would make more sense to work toward eliminating the motive, rather than restricting access to the means.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 25, 2018 - 08:04pm PT
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Limiting access to one form of weapon is not going to stop people from hurting each other. It would make more sense to work toward eliminating the motive, rather than restricting access to the means.
Shhhhh! Critical thinking is not allowed on these posts Tom....
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Mar 25, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
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(Reuters) - Remington Outdoor Co Inc [FREDM.UL], one of the largest U.S. makers of firearms, filed for bankruptcy protection on Sunday to carry out a debt-cutting deal with creditors amid mounting public pressure for greater gun control.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Mar 25, 2018 - 09:02pm PT
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My bolt-action .22, with a tubular magazine under the barrel, was made by Remington, and rebranded as Sears, Roebuck, and Co.
It's one of my favorite possessions. I first shot it about five decades ago.
EDIT:
That's what they do in Switzerland. Almost zero shootings there.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 25, 2018 - 09:04pm PT
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Give everyone a gun.
At age 21, male or female, you go before the Federal Arms Licensing Board and you are examined for fitness and sanity.
If deemed eligible, you will attend a 10 week course on gun handling and safety.
Once you pass the finals exam, you have the right to purchase and own a single firearm; that being a 30.06 rifle.
No other rifle or handgun may be possessed, manufactured or duplicated. We picked the 30.06 for it's universality for practical hunting and food gathering.
When guns become tools and not toys -we will have made progress.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan, Former USSR
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Defiantly the most racist organization founded by the founders of KKK
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Defiantly the most racist organization founded by the founders of KKK
Defiance, I say! And founded founders too!
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