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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Amazing! Actually Ed does more amazing things than meet the eye!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there ed.. say, just jumping in to say thank you... (i dont need the files, as i dont climb, but i was just thanking you for being so kind to eveyone)...
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Joe
Social climber
Santa Cruz Mountains/Los Gatos
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a yeoman's effort.
nicely done.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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A yeoman's effort indeed,
Say...quicky quiz for the *bump*:
Who was/were the yeoman in the Shatner Star Trek???
(not sayin' I have the difinitive answer, but I think he had the hots for one of 'em)
We may have needs to refer to Ed as Capt'n...
"Admiral Hartouni" in fact, has a nicer ring.
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cultureshock
Trad climber
Wall Climber Wannabe
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Another way to view the index is through Google Documents.
I took the version and cut it down to the 1mb limit so it just includes the index.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pCYREeFGKi5FThoqmEkg4Tw
Ed, if you want I can take this down. I would think that keeping a copy online would be a good back-up and a great distribution method. As well you can invite contributors and track changes.
Cheers,
Luke
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2008 - 12:58am PT
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just got back home from an adventure in Tuolumne Meadows...
I put the database out there for everyone and anyone to use. I consider it a community effort. I'd like to keep track of route activity independent of published guides as the guides take a long time between publications... actually that's another interesting statistic...
...there are 2237 climbs in the spreadsheet
480 climbs in Roper 1971
805 climbs in Meyers 1982
48 climbs in Harlin 1987
1181 climbs in Meyers & Reid 1987
137 climbs in Climbing 129
1536 climbs in Reid 1994
41 climbs in SuperTopo 2000
204 climbs in SuperTopo 2003
guides come out about one or two a decade, but there are hundreds of new climbs done each year. American Alpine Journal gets some of these, and some of the other rags might mention some of the newsworthy climbs... but the bulk of new climbs are unknown.
I think it would be great if they were known. It is important for the history of climbing...
edit per Clint's observation.. see, it is a community thing!
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nutjob
Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
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Ed, this is some serious community-minded love. Thank you for this admirable and amazing effort.
Stzzo, I was thinking along the same lines... not so tough to through this into mysql and put a simple web form on the front end. Of course, the more effort put into it the slicker it will get.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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What happened to all the info I added from the Roper '64 guide? Looks like it's gone now. Irrelevant?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2008 - 08:45pm PT
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steelmnky, not gone, just on another version... I'll seriously review the versions and get yet another one out.. saw something today that needed to be changed...
sorry about version control... when you sent it I was thoroughly burned out on the project. I'm getting renergized now...
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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I was just curious... no hurry. You do good work!!!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2008 - 01:01am PT
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OK, the latest version has the steelmnky contributions:
1) Roper 64 references
2) Voge 54 references
3) Falkenstein 92 references
and I've consolidated the journal references under a single column...
Anticipated changes for the future is an expanded "journals" reference... and any new climbs that I hear about (I guess I should put in the "Eric Gabel" climbs...)
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! I haven't seen anything this comprehensive (relative to the climbs accomplished) since Pratt's notebook.
John
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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I haven't opened the document, but immediately I wonder about a few obscure routes I did that most people don't know about. For example, April Showers, 5.10 crack above Camp 4, or Hush,Puppy!, a 5.11 fingertip lieback along the base of Reed Pinnacle... I've got lots of them, actually... Maybe they're not important...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2008 - 02:50am PT
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Pat - everything is important! I'd be happy to include any climb you have done that hasn't made it into a guide book yet.
Put a list up here, or email me a description...
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Walla Walla, WA
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Ed, this is quite amazing. Thank you!
I have one correction. Continual guidebook errors notwithstanding, we did Wings of Steel in 1982 rather than 1981. It's a small point, but you are obviously going for excellence and accuracy.
All the best!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2008 - 11:20am PT
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thanks madbolter1, I'll make the change, also wondered if you had the Ring of Fire FA year, that seems to be missing...
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MisterE
Social climber
My Inner Nut
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Really great work, Ed. The Doctor and I are in the process of redoing the Northern Arizona Guidebook, and I am doing the computer side on Excel - I know how much work this is from first-hand experience.
Kudos, Erik
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