Stolen truck - climbing gear inside - Joshua Tree

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List

This thread has been locked

Messages 21 - 40 of total 65 in this topic

<< First | < Previous | Show All | Next > | Last >>

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber

Pomfert VT

Sep 23, 2016 - 12:57pm PT

I always have a 2nd set of keys in the vehicle. you are supremely screwed these days if you lose your only set of keys...

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber

Pomfert VT

Sep 23, 2016 - 01:35pm PT

My life experience is that I can and have lost the keys that are on me. If i can get in to the vehicle and get the spare key then things are looking good.

BigB

Trad climber

Red Rock

Sep 23, 2016 - 01:53pm PT

brotherbbock

climber

Alta Loma, CA

Sep 23, 2016 - 02:17pm PT

Damn sorry bro that is a major bummer.

What the fuk is wrong with these savages running around out there?

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

Sep 23, 2016 - 02:30pm PT

"How would the owner know the answer to your question?"...

Wouldn't you know if you left your keys in the truck???...

And if you knew you didn't...

how do you think a theif would manage to get the truck running???...(Unless you think someone pulled up with a tow truck???)...

I was indirectly asking did he/she leave the keys in the truck, etc...

My question is...

WHY you couldn't figure that out without having to ask...

Thanks for the explanation, of sorts. But it begs a few more questions:
1. What does the "etc." mean in "I was indirectly asking did he/she leave the keys in the truck, etc..."? Now that I know you like being indirect, are you perhaps insinuating that the owner left a hide-a-key. But then how would the owner know if the thief hotwired, used the hide-a-key, or something else?
2. Did someone pull up with a tow truck?
3. Are there are other ways to steal vehicles besides keys left in vehicles (both in the ignition and otherwise), tow trucks, and hotwiring? Lockpicking perhaps?

Which brings me to the denouement:

4. Instead of "indirectly" asking if he/she left the keys in the truck, etc., why didn't you directly ask if he/she left the keys in the truck and directly ask whatever you're getting at with the "etc."?

Thanks in advance for clearing this up--been wondering about it since I posted.

Edit: In my question 3, I forgot pushing down the road, sorry!

Double Edit: Looks like Locker got me this time! :-(

Dapper Dan

Trad climber

Redwood City

Sep 23, 2016 - 02:36pm PT

I'm surprised more people don't install a kill switch in their vehicle. It's very easy to do, especially on older vehicles. You can tap into the ignition , or the fuel pump , add a simple single pole switch, and you disable the circuit .

I also lock my shifters together which is easier to do if you have a 4x4...

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber

Pomfert VT

Sep 23, 2016 - 03:22pm PT

Isa's westy has a hidden kill switch on the fuel pump. I would not know how to rig that on the Astro? Huge difference betweeen 1986 and 2003......

JLP

Social climber

The internet

Sep 23, 2016 - 03:43pm PT

It's an old truck, EZ to hotwire, give the girl a break. Who cares even if the keys were in there, not everyone wants to live like thieves are everywhere, and even then everyone makes mistakes and lets their guard down at some point. If a thief really wants something, they'll get it.

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Sep 23, 2016 - 03:57pm PT

Blah, when I read it I figured Locker was trying to be polite, by asking indirectly.

I had a (borrowed) '82 Sentra stolen in Vegas once. It was gone in minutes. The owner told me that in that year rig, you can just stick a screwdriver in the ignition slot and start it up.
There's all kinds of ways to jack various cars.

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

Sep 23, 2016 - 04:09pm PT

Hmmm, how far away was the truck recovered from where it was stolen?
Depending on the distance, that may lend some credence to Locker's "thief just pushed it down the road" theory . . .

Supertopo detective team is on this one!

WBraun

climber

Sep 23, 2016 - 04:13pm PT

Stupid Americans!!!! :-)

Just pull the correct fuse (ignition, run etc) and take it with you when you park remote in a place or if worried vehicle can be hot wired.

Or kill switch wired to ignition, run circuit but thief will look for it.

Or take center coil wire with you.

Or just be stoopid and leave keys in ignition switch for thief's easy access ..... duh!

Ho mannn ......

Crimpergirl

Sport climber

Boulder, Colorado!

Sep 23, 2016 - 04:22pm PT

Probably used a multimeter.

DMT

I just accidentally spit out a good piece of dinner when I read that. Thanks for the chuckle!

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Sep 23, 2016 - 04:26pm PT

There's just one thing that bothers me about this...

I like the stick shift/ padlock rig! Is it hacksaw proof?

jonnyrig

climber

Sep 23, 2016 - 04:27pm PT

There are a number of ways to get around vehicle security systems. In some cases, a slide hammer can be threaded into the lock cylinder of the ignition and it can be popped out in one or two hits. Depends on the vehicle. After the cylinder's out, there's no hot-wiring needed. Just a pair of needle nose or a screwdriver. Takes seconds.

Also, up until sometime in the mid 2000's or so, I've personally been able (dealing with keys locked inside vehicles at work) been able to easily substitute keys from other vehicles, especially when the keys and/or locks (both door and ignition) become a little worn, and simply by a little manipulation got them to open easily and/or start within just a few seconds. This is my go-to method when someone loses/forgets/locks in a vehicle key. Ford, GM, Navistar/International, Peterbilt, Freightliner (including a 2009 and 2010), Mazda, and probably a couple others I forgot. I keep a key bucket around the shop and the garage. No idea where some of them come from; but they come in handy once in awhile.

As to kill switches and such, just make goddam sure you're disabling the correct system, and definitely not hacking into something like the air bag system. Additionally, even if you don't set your bags off, there's a good chance you could disable something and set off trouble codes that you will then have to pay someone an extravagant fee to repair.

At least, if you're unsure, get a wiring diagram so you don't, say, fry your electronic dash or the ECM. Spendy parts to replace.

Sh#t happens. Your vehicle is nowhere near as secure as you hope. In short, don't leave sh#t in it. Sorry for your gear loss.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Sep 23, 2016 - 04:44pm PT

Can you also open Locker with a can of Coke?

zBrown

Ice climber

Sep 23, 2016 - 07:10pm PT

In the future every car will have a tamper-proof IED built into the transmission.

In the event of theft the owner will be able to use Google Earth to remotely detonate the device.

It won't get your stuff back, but it will prevent the perp from stealing it again.

Lorenzo

Trad climber

Portland Oregon

Sep 23, 2016 - 07:21pm PT

Sep 21, 2016 - 09:48am PT
Most unfortunate...

Did they hotwire it???...

Umm, the truck was stolen and, as far as we can tell from this thread, hasn't been recovered.

How would the owner know the answer to your question?

Did the owner take distributor parts out of the truck?