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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:12pm PT
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why should we have to stand for some bullshit symbolism?
It's about showing respect to our veterans... dumbass.
CK is spoiled little brat. Instead doing something honorable... something to move the conversation forward... he acts like a whiny d#@&%ebag.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:14pm PT
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Jackie Robinson, Ali, John Carlos and others African Americans have done the same and still this country is gunning down African Americans.
Nearly all of the gunning down is being done by African Americans.
Hmmm.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:17pm PT
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If someone doesn't wave the flag, he/she doesn't respect veterans.
Stupid assumption.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
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Jackie Robinson, Ali, John Carlos and others African Americans have done the same and still this country is gunning down African Americans.
How dare you leave out Tommie Smith, one of my heroes when I was in high school, since he grew up in Lemoore, not far from here! After all, it was Smith who won the 200 meters in world record time with an injured leg.
Moreover, Smith ran for San Jose State. I admit to retaining an animus against the NCAA because of the racist sanctions they imposed on SJS, more because of Smith than of Carlos.
Seriously, though, what did Jackie Robinson do to disrespect a symbol of the United States?
Again, I really don't care what entertainers say or think unless they become candidates for public office. CK's antics simply can't excite me.
John
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:20pm PT
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"It's about showing respect to our veterans... dumbass.
CK is spoiled little brat. Instead doing something honorable... something to move the conversation forward... he acts like a whiny d#@&%ebag."
Funny.
Make America great again Eddy.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:29pm PT
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JohnE...There I was, the black grandson of a slave, the son of a black sharecropper, part of a historic occasion, a symbolic hero to my people. The air was sparkling. The sunlight was warm. The band struck up the national anthem. The flag billowed in the wind. It should have been a glorious moment for me as the stirring words of the national anthem poured from the stands. Perhaps, it was, but then again, perhaps, the anthem could be called the theme song for a drama called The Noble Experiment. Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:35pm PT
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Reilly, that's a great point about LeBron sending 1,000 kids to college.
In fact, every motherlicker who makes over xx millions should do it, starting with Mr Everything Is So Gawdamn Dark In America Trump.
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BluntMan
Gym climber
Wild Omar, CA
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:43pm PT
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We have a 1st amendment that protects his right to speech and religion. I served in the US Army to protect those rights among others.
As long as Kaepernick can continue to accept the negative feedback without complaining "foul", I have no problem with his decision. It's his right.
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chill
climber
The fat part of the bell-curve
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:50pm PT
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I don't understand required public displays of patriotism, is it to root out the traitors? I decided to stop saying the pledge of allegiance in jr. HS and fortunately my teacher saw no reason to make a big deal of it, she just let me sit there. How I feel about America, God, or apple pie is nobodies business but mine.
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Burnin' Oil
Trad climber
CA
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Aug 30, 2016 - 03:13pm PT
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It gives all the idiots something to blather on about, to fill their drab, boring, pedantic lives.
Present company excluded, of course...
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Aug 30, 2016 - 03:31pm PT
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He should be able to do what he wants but so should the 49er's if they feel like canning him. If any of us regular dudes did that to their boss at a big event we would not have our jobs long I think. He should put some of his millions where his mouth is hopefully he is.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 30, 2016 - 03:41pm PT
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After all the men and women who sacrificed their lives for our freedoms in wars and peace to make this country so great.
Hey Werner - they sacrificed their lives so that people would have the right to do EXACTLY what Kaepernick did.
If you want to respect the troops get on your congressman about properly funding the VA. Blathering "Thank you for your service" and whining about hollow gestures does nothing for the thousands of veterans living with the effects of our ridiculous wars.
I am going to the Texan/Charger game in Houston just before Thanksgiving, I just might sit through the Nationalist Anthem, my bro will video the reaction.
and yeah, I served (not that it entitles me to any additional consideration)
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 30, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
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You lazy ass Americans can't even stand up and show some respect.
Instead, ya all gotta run yer mouths as lip service.
Stoopid Americans ......
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Aug 30, 2016 - 04:05pm PT
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My thoughts are that it's just lazy. He wants to make a statement about social justice without having to put any effort or money into it. If he really cares about black people, or social justice he should work with partners to increase graduation rates, or get more black people to vote. Or better yet, he could start a foundation and spend some of his $19 million to make life better for disparate populations.
I'm sorry, but unless you're Rosa Parks sitting is not social activism. It's just lazy.
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Aug 30, 2016 - 04:15pm PT
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If he wants to make himself a target for the unintelligent overly patriotic it's his business. What ever happened to the 7th inning "take me out to the ball Game "? since 9/11 it turned into "God bless America" more overly patriotic nonsense.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Aug 30, 2016 - 04:35pm PT
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It's great to see so many ST members standing so stiffly at attention, their heads swelling with patriotic pride as they listen to the music and sip kool-aid. . .
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