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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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May 19, 2015 - 04:32pm PT
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I loved his avatar photo (Cosmic? post it up for old times sake?). It was a message. The man did not take himself too seriously. Too bad others did.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 19, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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Ron was just a spark, I blame the dry wood that couldn't keep themselves away from him.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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May 19, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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With Ron i've done a bit of climbing, a bit of hunting, a fair bit of work, and a whole lot of reading of his always entertaining posts. WTF is this place coming to? The Chief was right in one of his recent emails, " I give ST six months before it self destructs".
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 19, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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Are some of you deliberately and disingenuously forgetting exactly how rude Ron could be.
Not to mention how rude some of his defenders can regularly be.
Not as rude as you can be Philo. I've never thought either of you should be banned... in fact I like both of you.
I don't expect everyone to be polite all the time or get along.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 19, 2015 - 04:41pm PT
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Those who are unapologetic as to Ron's dismisille.
Are in fact HATERS of free-speech.
THEIR Americanism should be questioned.
And maybe should be booted to Cuba.
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 19, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
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Don't fret, Philo. Bullies love to hunt in packs. Too much testosterone.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:50pm PT
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Don't fret Crankster, I don't fret the purveyors of sciolism.
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 19, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
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I'm good, headed here, see ya...
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:54pm PT
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 19, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
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If Ron went involuntarily, then I no longer understand the protocols here. Ron's attacks differed little, if at all, from those of many other members who remain here. Besides, Ron posted significant climbing content, too. If anything, the personal attacks against Ron struck me as far worse than anything he originated.
Unless he took a voluntary sabbatical, it's not a good day for the Forum.
John
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 19, 2015 - 05:12pm PT
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philo said;
Are some of you deliberately and disingenuously forgetting exactly how rude Ron could be.
Not to mention how rude some of his defenders can regularly be.
climbski2 said;
Not as rude as you can be Philo. I've never thought either of you should be banned... in fact I like both of you.
I agree. At least Ron wasn't a PDF* artist like you philo
*post then quickly delete and "forget" even faster
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:20pm PT
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Philo posts who he is and has a long history as a climber. Ron as well.
Crankster on the other hand is a faceless troll. Lets see your face Crankster.. on a climb.. not just a picture of a rock if you are the climber you claim to be.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:21pm PT
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This makes me sad. We are all elements of something that has been built over years. It's falling apart like Kathmandu. Civility and tolerance are our rebar, and there doesn't seem to be enough of it here anymore to keep what was built, standing.
I tend to be kind of oblivious of the squabbles a lot of you seem to be having all the time with each other. I know Ron was controversial. He started a lot of political and firearm-related threads, which seemed to get a lot of people agitated. I always just ignore what doesn't interest me so it never bothered me.
But Ron also posted climbing content. He contributed a lot in that way. And the posts from him that I read were always civil. I've read plenty of posts directed at him that were personal attacks, very nasty.
To me personally he was always nice, even sweet. I hope to meet him and climb together some day.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 19, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
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Why can't pussies and dicks get along?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:44pm PT
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Fish and Game sucks. Just my opinion.
If it wasn't for Fish and Game there wouldn't be much fish and game left. And your opinion is just like your opinion of Fish and Game.
Sorry, I was just channeling Ron. I can hear him.;)
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 19, 2015 - 05:45pm PT
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T-Hocking & Moose I fixed it. :)
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:52pm PT
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Damn!!! I just found the dirt.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:58pm PT
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I'm sorry he's gone. I've never once been offended by his posts even if I often disagreed with him or when he criticized me; I understood his point of view. He was a devil's advocate and was also fun to test, which made him amusing at times. As John said, if he was booted, it's a low day for the forum.
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