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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Feb 22, 2015 - 07:12pm PT
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I like this shot for texture... pretty heavy-handed editing with Google Plus tools to increase the shadows and bring out the detail in the ice and snow. It makes the patch of blue sky look worse though.
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Avery
climber
NZ
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Feb 22, 2015 - 07:16pm PT
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On this pic, the climbers windblown facial expression was paramount. Then it was just a matter of point and click (The pic was taken in 1986)
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Avery
climber
NZ
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Feb 22, 2015 - 07:18pm PT
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Great idea for a thread, Munge!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Feb 22, 2015 - 07:23pm PT
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Avery, an idea for photo-shopping that last cool pic: make separate layers of the part inside the cave and the part outside; keep the brightness on the inside part to show the cave detail, but leave the outside part less exposed/less enhanced to keep the detail in the face.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Feb 22, 2015 - 07:44pm PT
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Nutagain- if you don't force those shadows so much, the blue should come back. Use the incredible light/shadow contrast you have going on. I would bring the shadows down and make them a little darker than normal, to accentuate them. Then bring the highlights down a tiny bit and get rid of some of that glare.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2015 - 09:01pm PT
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Unsharpened
Sharpened
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Friend
climber
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Feb 22, 2015 - 09:14pm PT
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Super cool thread. Great tips. Thanks!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Feb 22, 2015 - 10:32pm PT
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Can't decide how to or if I should crop this one.
Edit: every time I put a picture online the color looks funny and nothing like it does in Adobe Bridge. I don't know if my browser jacks it up or if Bridge is showing it incorrectly?
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Feb 22, 2015 - 11:17pm PT
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Can't decide how to or if I should crop this one. I would completely delete it (cuz it make anything I ever shot look so bad).
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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Feb 22, 2015 - 11:34pm PT
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Anyone here into astro? milky way? mono?
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Feb 22, 2015 - 11:40pm PT
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Munge, I like the sky better in the unsharpened one. The silhouette of the mountains might be a bit better with the sharpened, but the sky change catches my eye more.
Limpingcrab, I wouldn't change a thing in the cropping. I though about bringing in the right side, but the asymmetry of the trees is nice for me, and seeing the notch in the ridgeline adds to it. Can't bring any lower or it would be weird to crop the top of the trees on the right. The foreground composition is nice too, wouldn't want to trim out any of that stuff. Good as it is! Maybe could crop a tiny bit from the bottom, to eliminate the little triangle-ish shadow/texture in the bottom right corner, but then it might look a bit boring with the lost of contrast and interesting shapes along the bottom. That's my completely uneducated/untrained perspective, just going on instinct.
Snowhazed, that detail in the milky way is exceptionally good! Tripod plus external trigger? Any fancy big lens? Whenever I try to get star detail, the pictures always get washed out with a lot of background light (purple sky between the stars). So do you need a filter of some sort plus a long exposure time? Or is a short exposure time with a big lens more important? Or being able to calculate a precise exposure time? I've only hacked it with point-and-shoots where I can choose a 15 or 30 second exposure time, and do a 2 second delay so I can balance it on a rock, give time for the vibrations of pressing the shutter to shake out, and get as clear as I can. An example of those efforts:
Balancing on the roof of my car on a drive into Yosemite a few years back (I love the pic, but too much moon to see any star detail):
Here's my original snow pic from earlier in this thread with zero edits. It seems that the "shadows" nerd-knob in Google Plus just lightens up the shadows, rather than accentuating existing shadows. I tried to increase the contrast, and didn't really like the effect. In the end the plain old picture is the most clear it seems. I would like to see more depth/contrast in the snow texture without making it look washed out, but don't know how to do that...
I definitely found a consistent pattern in the old Picasa editing tools, that for my rock climbing pictures, they seemed more 3D and popping out when I tuned up the shadows and brightness just a bit. There is usually a "sweet spot" where the texture in the rock suddently comes alive as I'm sliding the shadow parameter, and then I would adjust brightness to compensate. Sometimes add a little saturation to bring out the trees in the climbing photos, but not too much.
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brodracula
Trad climber
hawaii
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Feb 23, 2015 - 12:46am PT
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here's few shots I like
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Feb 23, 2015 - 02:01am PT
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Hey Nutsomemore, I took that weird pic you like and I'm using for my desktop for a couple of days until my wife puts up more fecking puppy pics. I think it is really cool. thanks.
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Avery
climber
NZ
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Feb 23, 2015 - 03:01am PT
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Castle Hill, NZ. 1991.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 23, 2015 - 03:36am PT
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Way cropped. Some added contrast and a bit of brightening. Low resolution image.
I was more interested in the swifts darting around.
Knowing what I know now as opposed to eight months ago, I would have used a much higher speed and gone closer in to begin with
and had I the program to work with I'd have used the highest resolution format.
Learning curves vary with the amount of shots somewhat, but practical sharining like this thread promises is a huge promoter of better work.
It helps to have good equipment, like a solid tripod...this 300mm lens has since stopped working on autofocus,
and without the pod, I'd have little chance to get focused properly.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 23, 2015 - 06:36am PT
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The view from Suicide is pretty nice!
Cross town traffic just kind of happened. But I think is is my best climbing shot (phone camera).
One guy on Open Book, and one on the Horn.
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Feb 23, 2015 - 06:49am PT
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DonC
climber
CA
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Feb 23, 2015 - 08:34am PT
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Ed - color management, now there is an advanced and confusing topic for most. I thought I'd let this thread go a while before bringing that up, but you threw it out there! If you want your prints to match your screen you need a calibrated monitor and need to understand color management with profiles that match the ink and paper you are printing to.
Snowhazed - you asked if anyone does astro photography. I don't do deep sky stuff, but I do a lot of night and lightpainting work and teach a class for the Joshua Tree National Park Association Desert Institute. Did you have some questions?
The May class is full but we may do another during the summer when the Milky Way rises earlier.
http://www.joshuatree.org/keys-ranch-night-sky-photography-workshop/
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 23, 2015 - 08:39am PT
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I'll play too! I have a point and shoot, I know nothing about photography, but I have a good eye for composition. (usually)
I do use post picture fiddling, with Irfanview, because I can't stand washed out desert "high light" photos.
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