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t-bone

climber
Bishop
Jan 5, 2015 - 02:38pm PT
gotta love the comment section...


Patrick
NYC 19 hours ago

Tom Cruise did something like this for that movie Mission Impossible, not sure if it was the I or the II, but he definitely made it look easy. I actually canceled my own trip to El Capitan after seeing that film, and instead went bow hunting for lion in Kenya. Maybe this year I'll give it the old spin.
Bad Acronym

climber
Little Death Hollow
Jan 5, 2015 - 05:04pm PT
^^^

Thought I'd go bully off to free the Dawn Wall as well! Then I saw the NYT article and binned it. Now it's off to Greenland to shoot gnats with nailguns, ho ho HO!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Outside the Asylum
Jan 5, 2015 - 06:00pm PT
Perhaps we can look forward to the NYT, and other news media, explaining to the public the fine theological niceties of the different styles of 'free' ascent, including clean, on sight, hangdog, red point, rehearsed, and on and on. Not to mention that the current ascent wouldn't have been considered free by the standards of 1970s Yosemite, but now is by many. And that a true free ascent arguably requires a naked climber without any equipment besides that required for public morals, and previously untouched and unseen rock.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jan 5, 2015 - 08:53pm PT
The simple way to frame a general audience article about a specialized sport most folks didn't grow up playing or watching nor yet understanding - include a sidebar with a few key terms and techniques briefly and clearly explained. This provides much-needed context, insight and verisimilitude to the piece and frees up the feature writer to do the "story," as opposed to hacking out an info dump on what all those ropes are doing and how they got up there. It also weeds out howlers, like all the hooey about the rope.

Simple concept, rarely used.

JL

ryankelly

Trad climber
Bhumi
Jan 5, 2015 - 09:54pm PT
Key beta from Mr. Long. Right on.

Kinda funny about this article because as I stood in El Cap Meadow with Tom Evans on January One, 2015 someone speculated about the possibility of a New York Times article.

Tom thought maybe the front page of the Sporting section. Pretty cool to fire up the news and see people try to describe what Tommy and Kevin are making happen up there.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 6, 2015 - 07:42am PT
Anybody catch the Today show?

Their piece kept flashing to a pic of Half Dome and calling it El Cap!

lol
CCT

Trad climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 10:37am PT
Text message from my mom this morning, who is New York Times reader, and who has been kind enough to toprope with me once.

"Saw T Evans and K Jorgeson are on El Cap. This is exciting to see even for me! Glad they wear safety ropes"

Go Tom Evans! And how about that excellent photography, presumably from T. Caldwell himself.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 6, 2015 - 10:46am PT
Awesome stuff. This is our super bowl :)
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 6, 2015 - 10:59am PT
Our Super Bowl? Are you nuts?

I'll be impressed when somebody actually frees El Cap without using sling belays!
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 6, 2015 - 11:00am PT
^^^

Dawn wall is 5.14D/A0 ;D
pc

climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 11:41am PT
Well...IMO Aid climbing is climbing "the rope". Aiders are just ropes of a different configuration.

Regardless...

Nice going on the Dawn Wall fellows!
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jan 6, 2015 - 11:58am PT
When Todd Skinner and his friend first free climbed the Trango Tower, they got some media coverage. I recall Skinner saying that "previous parties had climbed rope ladders, not the rock itself," or words to that effect. So, the media equates aid climbing with "rope ladders." Still, I agree the coverage this time around was confusing.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jan 6, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
I would have hoped that the enormous increase in the number of climbers since the Dawn Wall's 1970 first ascent would have resulted in more accurate reporting in matters concerning our hobby. There are plenty of journalists who climb now, so the oversimplification disappointed me, particularly coming from the Times. At least the Fresno Bee reported the cliff's height as 3,000 feet, rather than 3,000 miles.

Oh well, to quote Dudley Do-Right: "But it's in the newspaper, so it must be true."

John
pschwa

Social climber
The 9th Circle
Jan 6, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
sempervirens asked

Ed, or anybody, Any chance you have a link to that NYT article about the first ascent of WOEML?

It doesn't look like the Times actually wrote any articles about the climb, although they carried wire articles from UPI or the AP on November 14, 16-20, and 22, 1970. On November 14 and 19 (after the "rescue" refusal and summit, respectively), they did have wire photos on the front page, below the fold.
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Jan 6, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
I was clenching my nubs even before I saw this quote!

Caldwell, right, and Jorgeson at the Dawn Wall, which has a relentlessly smooth face with few cracks to penetrate or nubs to clench.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:05pm PT
#NubClenching
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:08pm PT
or in tommy's case:

#nubclenchingnub
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
From my monstrous Random House Dictionary the first definition of nub is "a knot or protuberance".

Nub clenching works for me.
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:41pm PT
Go, Team NubClench!!!

Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:50pm PT
There's a second shorter article about it on the front page of the Times today - Hanging Out 1,200 feet above the Ground. More accurate but the comments are highly critical and cynical. What is it about the internet that brings out such negativism?!

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