The Two-Party System: Divide and Conquer (OT)

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Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 15, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
Obviously, you have forgotten...


kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Dec 15, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
Jebus,

I did google it but found no signs for sale - that's why i wondered what your story was...bet someone just had it printed.

kev

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 15, 2014 - 01:18pm PT
Mr. E..... I have had the same feelings for years.


DMT.... your right "TEAM"
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 15, 2014 - 01:25pm PT
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 15, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
Makes for a continuous stable government.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Dec 15, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
The best system may be Instant Runoff Voting.
Embedded powers like Dems & Repubs hate it because they lose power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system#Multiple-winner_methods

The most common ranked voting method is instant-runoff voting (IRV), also known as the "alternative vote" or simply preferential voting, which uses voters' preferences to simulate an elimination runoff election without multiple voting events. As the votes are tallied, the option with the fewest first-choice votes is eliminated. In successive rounds of counting, the next preferred choice still available from each eliminated ballot is transferred to candidates not yet eliminated. The least preferred option is eliminated in each round of counting until there is a majority winner, with all ballots being considered in every round of counting.

http://www.fairvote.org/reforms/instant-runoff-voting/
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujň de la Playa
Dec 15, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
When it comes to the Yin & the Yang. I'm for either one or the other or both.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 15, 2014 - 07:49pm PT
I really thought things would change when Obama took office. The Bush years were so horrible for our country. But now, what the heck. Clinton signed NAFTA, and he's now all chummy with W. O just petered out. With both housed in Dem control, still nothing happened. How can that be? Where was the fight? And now the "give away." And now, no prosecution for the ones who orchestrated the torture, a blatant violation of what our country stands for.

My buddy told me this story (and I'm not sure if this is true or not), but when a new president takes office, the Powers that Be pull him aside into a special meeting and they tell him how it's going to be. The new president steps out of that meeting a few shades grayer. I once saw a chart (yeah, on the internet) about the security clearance of the President. It was pretty far down the chart.

It was my belief that O had good intentions in mind, but that those with the real power hold the reigns. It's my belief that the ones in control are not elected every four years. The ones that get elected, those guys are just the figureheads. Real world power doesn't go out when an old president retires.

It will be pretty interesting, though, to see the line of clowns that step up for the GOP nomination. The last time around it was a full-on joke.
Hillary? What do you think?
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2014 - 11:08pm PT
Aristotle identifies three kinds of ideal constitution—each of which describes a situation in which those who rule pursue the common good—and three corresponding kinds of perverted constitution—each of which describes a situation in which those who rule pursue narrow and selfish goals. The three kinds of constitution, both ideal and perverted, are differentiated by the number of persons they allow to rule. Thus “rule by one” is monarchy in its ideal form and tyranny in its perverted form (see tyrant); “rule by the few” is aristocracy in its ideal form and oligarchy in its perverted form; and “rule by the many” is “polity” in its ideal form and democracy in its perverted form.

"Democracy" is "rule by many" in it's perverted form - LOL.

I always like his ideal of "polity" I once read:

Drawing randomly from the pool of qualified candidates for a limited term with little or no compensation.

Keeping it real, Old School.
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