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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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That is cool info hikermor.
Pretty sure I got it from the Bob Kerry guidebook (first edition, page 115 says there was one). not sure where he got it...maybe he'll be at the Fest and we can ask him! :-)
Hey it was wreckage and it could have been a heliograph station, or a lemonade stand. I'm gullible. :-)
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hikermor
Trad climber
southern california
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Found this on a list of 19th century helio stations:
8 Little Baldy Peak, 11/2 miles south of Old Baldy, Santa Rita Mountains
There were different networks at different times,including USFS efforts around 1900.
Must have been an interesting assignment. Probably sunny dispositions were essential....
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
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I am planning on spending a little time doing research ahead of the Festival doing research at the Arizona historical Society to see what I can find out.
In the absence of radio communication from up there heliograph communication makes sense but I agree that the historical timeframe is likely too far off.
I heard heliograph station a long time ago so I assumed it was correct.
The tickets should go on sale in a day or two and I will confirm availability.
This is really going to be fun!
More interesting Baboquivari history including pages from the missing original Summit Hut looseleaf guidebook mixed with other Deucey tidbits here:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2157458/Big-Wall-Archives-Baboquivari
The history section says it was a heliograph station from the 1930s so that is certainly where I read it first.
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pk_davidson
Trad climber
Albuquerque, NM
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Well bummer....
My work has me in Portland around then.
Perhaps I'll hoist one with Peter in honor.
Gimp: I''d like to get more info on the Roma Ramblers.
We were tromping around upper Oak Creek and summited a small thing and found a film can, The Kaibab Cap, Roma Ramblers, 1963. (To my best memory)
It was a typical nasty bushwalk up high on the west side N of West Fork
Sorry to miss this one!
There goes my clean sheet.
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Scott McNamara
climber
Tucson, Arizona
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Look forward to seeing you guys!
Babo has always been a wonderful mysterious place for me.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Be nice to see you too Scottie! Hope you been staying out of trouble! :-)
Bummed that PKD isn't going to make it. He was 2 for 2.
Festbump...
For your viewing pleasure, my buddy Tim on the Southeast Arete, Pitch 2.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2015 - 04:49pm PT
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Tickets are available now by calling or stopping by either location of the Summit Hut (520) 325-1554 or (520) 888-1000. Limited seating available so get yours now!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2015 - 07:08pm PT
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Open Box Office Bump.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2015 - 03:29pm PT
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Bump for AP...
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rockgeir
Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jan 23, 2015 - 05:34pm PT
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Bump for a great event!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 09:21pm PT
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Here is the event poster. Really looking forward to this one!
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jan 24, 2015 - 09:23am PT
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There's a BUMP in the road...should be a GREAT event!!
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Kyle0
Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
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Jan 28, 2015 - 06:59am PT
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Heliographs were actively used primarily in the campaign against Geronimo in 1886 (predating Babo's FA). Their relieance on horseback couriers and need for frequent resupplies would have likely made a post on Babo difficult or impossible anyways. Some interesting reading on it here http://huachuca-www.army.mil/pages/history/Rolak.html Apparently General Miles greatly exaggerated the heliographs role and use against the apaches, lol.
Stoked for this year, after an awesome time last year!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2015 - 06:29pm PT
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Glad to have you back!
The tigers are retracing their steps as I write.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2015 - 10:17am PT
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Bump with two weeks to go!
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takeme
Trad climber
tucson, az
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The Cochise event last year was amazing and I'm even more excited for this one! Thanks for all your hard work organizing it, Steve (and whoever else is involved).
A couple shots of my wife Cindy on Humungous Woosey, pitches 3 (crux) and 5, respectively:
Moonscape's crux pitch, Steve Curtis leading:
Don's Crack shots from the FA, courtesy of Ben Fairbanks:
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2015 - 04:45pm PT
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Those are some great images!
Please check your email as I would like to know what else you have.
These Festivals are totally a team effort and I would welcome your participation.
Is Ben Fairbanks still around Tucson?
Cheers!
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Lets bump this sucker back to the top.
Shot of Damon Williams (and JM) hoofing back up to Babo to try to dig up some memories of the route 22+ years after doing the first ascent of Moonscapes (5.11c) on the east face of Babo with Jim Waugh. Damon will be talking about the first ascent a week from Sunday at the Fest!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
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Just a heads up that I will be cancelling several campsite reservations at Catalina State Park in the next couple of days if anyone needs one coming in from out of town.
Minutes from the event and a really beautiful spot to camp out on the edge of town. The Gem and Mineral Show makes it a bit tough to find other accommodations if you plan on just showing up.
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