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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
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Goat wrote: Unfortunately this lackadaisical attitude resulted in 100's of routes in BC getting retrobolted. The Sport Park was all top ropes and bold leads until it was rediscovered, Tonnere Tower was completely covered in lichen, trees, and loose blocks until some blowhard that wanted to up his Mountain Project points destroyed that cool green ecosystem just so they can preen and strut in front of the tourists at Boulder Falls.
You have no idea what you are talking about, as do most of the others on this thread.
Call Chris and talk to him in person. Sack-up.
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
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Why all the talk? Pull & fill the bastards, and be done with it.
In this case I totally agree. Chris Weidner had no right to do anything at all to this route. Yank the hardware and give it back him. Him and his pals can wear there "murder kitty" T shirts on there own hack jobs.
Get a clue poser.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
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Maybe Chris should have sacked up and talked to Thom?
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
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Chris Weidner writes about climbing for the local newspaper.
Gayer than a bouquet of pensis.
NTTIAWWT.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
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Yes I do Bob, I was there.
Are you denying the sportpark wasn't retobolted or the other dozen crags?
Are you saying Tonnere Tower was a choss pile until the route setters moved in, I drove by that everyday watching the progess.
Stop thinking about your guidebook sales and tell us what you think happened.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
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Eric...you were not there and there wasn't 100's of climbing retro-bolted in the canyon. F*#king name them or STFU.
You spew a lot about sh#t you have no idea of.
How long have you lived in Boulder? 15 years maybe...or more. how many new routes have you done in the Canyon? 0...maybe.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:20pm PT
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"So many bolts get pulled on supertopo."
Everybody talk a good game until it is actually time to do something.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
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Okay Bob maybe it was 101, doesn't matter I'm not here to pull bolts.
But is was a shitload because I remember the topropes and runouts done been.
You're the guidebook author, tell us how many it was Bolting Bob?
Was everything west of Castle Rock bolted before '92?
I think knot.
Thanks Locker, I'm only on my second drink!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
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Eric wrote: Are you denying the sportpark wasn't retobolted or the other dozen crags?
Are you saying Tonnere Tower was a choss pile until the route setters moved in, I drove by that everyday watching the progess.
Yes I'm I'm denying it...certain routes have been retro-bolted...please name me the 100's.
I believe that you did drive by the crag...just like everyone else who thought is was a choss pile...people flock to the crag now to have fun.
You are like arm-chair climber in Boulder...filled with opinion but nothing to back them up.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
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Eric...you are a f*#king wanker...I could less about guide book sales. You have no f*#king idea what you are talking about.
Calling me bolting bob...funny. Anytime your lame ass want to go anywhere at any crag on any route to compare skills...let do it.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
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Eric wrote: Was everything west of Castle Rock bolted before '92?
Do you understand the difference between bolting new routes and retro-bolting??
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
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I can feel the Philly brotherly love.
Why you so mad?
Yes I understand the difference of someone claiming a FA over a toprope that was done before. STATUS!
Let me dig up some personal photos and the Richard Rossiter guide and compare it to your guide.
I'm sure we can compare notes between the lists on Mountain Project of FA's and Richard's guide.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
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A little history...been climbing in Boulder canyon since 1974...done 100's of new routes and most of the routes up to 13a/b, I also know a fair amount about the history and the bolting wars.
So let's go at it Eric.
Eric...I'm not mad...this sh#t happens all the time by people who don't know what the f*#k they are talking about.
Eric wrote: Yes I understand the difference of someone claiming a FA over a toprope that was done before. STATUS!
Bullsh#t.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
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So tell us about the bolting wars old man and how it is different from what I posted?
Enlighten us.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
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Eric..cut the name calling. Is that all you really got?
You were not there, you were not one of the players and you got most of your information from the mags, MP or hearsay.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
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"So many bolts get pulled on supertopo."
Everybody talk a good game until it is actually time to do something.
Sounds about right. Too many strong climbers in CO, 12C??? If anyone needs retrobolts pulled on a 5.10 let me know, I might be able to get up it....
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
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No I'm intrested in your take on the story Bob, now take a deep breath and tell us more how wrong I am. Please tell me how Tonnere Tower was climbed before it was cut down and bolts were added.
I've only been climbing here since '92 with partners that have been climbing there since '62. My last climb there was B3.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:43pm PT
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Eric...you are a poser who has not idea what they are talking about.I don't need to give you the story. You posted something that was bullsh#t, I callled you on it. Post the 100's of retro-bolted routes in Boulder canyon...I give you a day to post up.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 24, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
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Let me put in a good word for Bob's routes (not so much the person, who I don't know except he comes across as a little violent)--as someone who's done craploads of bolted routes (and non-bolted) in BoCan and elsewhere in Colo, he's got a fine eye for good lines and puts up quality routes.
Not really sure why anyone is butt hurt that people have put up new bolted lines in BoCan over the past 20 years or so, guess they don't have anything serious to complain bout. Talk about first world problems . . .
(There are rare cases where someone put a "new" line in that an old fart later claims he did in the 70s or whatever, oftentimes the old fart seems to be mistaken, and no one else really gives a damn. If you want to pretend that someone bolting a line that may have been done decades ago, but probably wasn't, and is never climbed now, is the same as retrebolting B-Y, have fun.)
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