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Footloose
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
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No reason to by 10mm anymore.
By design, I enjoy my 10+.
(1) I'm into the art of rope solo once in awhile, so a thicker rope provides more surface area for the ascenders.
(2) Maybe in some cases, a rope with less dynamic stretch is preferable, not to mention the obvious extra load bearing and surface area protection in the ruggedness.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
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Ropes mentioned here:
Mammut, Edelrid, Maxim
I've owned/ own many of their models (including those listed here).
I say CHECK OUT the BlueWater Icon... You will thank me (well, at least you deep down inside you'll know you should).
This is the rope of the future.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
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Oh crap!
YER GUNNA DIE!
better late than never.
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jfailing
Trad climber
PDX, North Slope, The Open Road
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
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I'm also in the market for a new rope...
Have been recommended Mammut and Maxim so far - I'm leaning towards the Maxim Pinnacle (9.4).
Anyone have a Metolius rope? Was curious as to how long those lasted...
Two of my friends have the Glider, and that thing stands up to some abuse! The 1:1 weave is pretty money.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
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Gear Labs review blew it (first time).
They left off the Icon probably because its 9.1mm
What they missed is the properties of the Icon help it exceed the 9.8mm.
Thicker tighter sheath make it durable and handle the best.
No biggie, they just missed it.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
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Locker-
Kinky women vs. kinky ropes? Is there any choice there?
I've read your "other interests" on MountainProject! Bwahahaha!
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
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Ron,
I hear ya. I have worn out many 11mm ropes over the years.
Keep in mind that in todays ropes the: threads, braiding, and treatments, make for much higher quality ropes than was available in the '70-'80's.
They are making longer lasting lighter more abrasion resistant ropes and now BlueWater has proven it possible to make a skinny light rope that LOCKS up in a modern belay device... What a pleasant improvement this is!
I've jugged this rope, fallen on this rope, and caught falls on this rope.
Ok, my work is done here.... I'm promoting this rope because I believe it is the BEST rope out there. No other reason.
As for BAD ropes out there... I don't think so.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
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Locker-
Yeah, we could rig 3 topropes at once! One at each end and doubled in the middle. Gotta' watch out for them buzzworms that were there the last time I wuz!
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crøtch
climber
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:27pm PT
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I've had good experiences with Just Ropes.com. Good retailer IMO.
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:27pm PT
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Goulash, (ok that was typed correctly ghoul but it auto corrected so don't blame me), your
post brings up a good point, which is that most of us a very superstitious about these rope brands and are loathe to try new things. I've owned a lot of Mammut and that
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the main reason I keep buying them. maybe something else is better but at $250 or so a pop it's not an experiment I like to do. The only reason I tried the PMI is that I did a trip to Red Rocks and first day out realized I didn't want to climb on my old old 60. PMI is what they had in the shop that looked good and the shop guy said he liked it so voila, I finally tried a new brand.
People like different aspects in their ropes. I 'm mostly concerned about the weight and the handling and don't pay too much attention to how long it lasts.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
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Phyl-
You bring up a good point here: no rope lasts forever! When I was really doing much of my hardest climbing ( too long ago to discuss here!) I retired ropes frequently, every other year or less, depending on how much abrasion showed on the sheath. Conversely, if a rope had been used in a sandy desert environment it got replaced oftener. My favorite rope of all time was an Edelrid 13 fall rated rope. I still have it...just can't bring myself to throw it out. Don't use it at all anymore, but it still looks great after 25 years.
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Alan Rubin
climber
Amherst,MA.
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
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No one has mentioned Sterlings on this thread. I'm wondering about folks' experiences with their 9.8, 70s. In general as a result of a past, rope cut to the core experience I'm usually with Ron in prefering thicker ropes, but I've been to a number of areas where 70s really are worthwhile and anything thicker than 9.8 at that length seems prohibitively heavy, but for the reason mentioned above I'm reluctant to go any skinnier.I know Sterlings are pricey, but have an opportunity to get one at a bit of a discount to even that aspect somewhat.
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David Wilson
climber
CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
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I have that Maxim glider 9.9 and, while a nice rope, it's too heavy. Check out the Mammut Infinity 9.5 - that's the next one I buy
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
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LOVE my Maxim Glider 9.9! I have 2, 1 was retired after a rock fell on it, and going to by another soon.
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Lambone
Big Wall climber
Ashland, Or
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Jun 20, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
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Mammut Supersafe
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John Butler
Social climber
SLC, Utah
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Jun 20, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
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The Maxim Glider 9.9 and Mammut Infinity 9.5 are both wonderful ropes. I don't have anything bad to say about other ropes I've used lately, but these two are definitely on my short list of great ropes.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
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Found my new 70m 9.8 Glider pretty stretchy compared to my new 60m 10.2 Glider. Don't really like the stretch or the extra weight/coiling time on the 70m. Anyone want to buy a like new 70m 9.8 Maxim Glider? ;) Or, trade for a like new 60m 10.2 Glider? :)
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
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I have a 70m Mammut Infinity. 9.5mm, iirc. I love it. It's super smooth, feeds well, coils/packs well, nice and light. I've only had it since April, so I can't speak 100% towards its durability, but I've been beating the hell out of it sport climbing and TRing and it still feels and looks great. My only complaint is that it isn't bi-pattern. I didn't realize how much I'd miss that until I didn't have it.
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