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Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2006 - 01:51am PT
Hey Sketch, What is the number on your copy and who was it issued to?

Thanks,
Ken
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2006 - 02:02am PT
Check out the Lower Spire Notebook post. It has a 1934 (first ascent)trip report and a strange newspaper article. Love it!

Ken
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jun 28, 2006 - 02:29am PT
Awesome!!!

I have a friend in Squamish who may have a near-new BAT hammock. Let me know.

Anders
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Sep 6, 2008 - 12:54am PT
Scared Silly, the scans were dropped, any chance you can repost them?

Ken, is it possible for you to scan what you have? or did you do it and I just don't know where it is?
WBraun

climber
Sep 6, 2008 - 01:02am PT
Yeah, Ken I like this Gasoline man's style.
Dr. Rock

Ice climber
Castle Rock
Sep 6, 2008 - 04:18am PT
G Search:(BTW, a copy was selling for $400)

"Detailed Product Description
SF, Sierra Club, May 1, 1937. First edition. 115 pp. Number 83 of perhaps 200 copies, mimeographed and stapled. Compiled by Richard M. Leonard and the Committee on Mountain Records. This is the first 'guidebook' to the Sierra Nevada, although it is really a list of all the peaks of interest, both named and numbered, with all routes done to 1937, with a list of the names of climbers in the group, the most common being the group of 'Norman Clyde, solo'. This list of the first 5 or 10 ascents of each Sierra Peak was not repeated in later guidebooks, and is delightful to read by itself.

Some peaks such as Middle Palisade seem to have had under ten ascents by 1937, while others such as Williamson and North Palisade had more attention. Wilderness Permits were not required because the Sierra Nevada truly was a wilderness in 1937. This copy appears to have belonged
to a club, but it was little used as there is no writing in it and no soiling or wear that would occur if it had been used much. Paper cover has wrinkles near the staples, otherwise this copy is Bright and Fine.

There are perhaps 6 to 10 keystone guidebooks to American Mountaineering, Coulter and Fryxell's Teton Guides, Beckey's 1949 Cascades Guide, Grans's 1964 Gunks Guide, Roper's 1964 Yosemite Guide, Toll's Colorado Guides. This ranks with them in importance to the then emerging sport of climbing. Its was a start to the many guidebooks that came later for one of America's great mountain ranges. But it is much scarcer than any of the above guidebooks as it was not published for sale in bookshops, but merely a handout to climbers and clubs in the Sierra Club orbit.
Dr. Rock

Ice climber
Castle Rock
Sep 6, 2008 - 04:58am PT
This might be cool:


Title: An ascent of "The Tooth" via the south east face [videorecording] : Sept. 21, 1940 / The Mountaineers present.
Title: Title on cassette label: Mountaineers "ascent of The Tooth"
Imprint: Seattle, WA : Alpha Video, [1992].
Physical Description: 1 videocassette (15 min.) : si., col., 1/2 in.
Notes: Photography, Burge Bickford, Lyman Boyer.
Notes: Climbing team: Jim Crooks and Fred Beckey.
Summary: Film of two rock climbers climbing "the Tooth" in the Washington Cascades.
Notes: VHS format.
Subject (LC): Rock climbing--Washington (State)
Added author: Beckey, Fred W., 1921-
Added author: Crooks, Jim.
Organization: Mountaineers (Society)


Anybody seen this:


Title: El Capitan [videorecording] : a film / by Fred Padula.
Imprint: Mill Valley (47 Shell Rd., Mill Valley, CA., 94941) : F. Padula, c1978 ; La Canada, CA. : Kingsley Co. [distributor?], [198-?]
Physical Description: 1 videocassette (60 min.) : sd., col. ; 1/2 in.
Note: Title on beginning frames: Three climbers.
Note: Climbers: Gary Colliver, Richard McCracken, Lito Tejada-Flores, Glenn Denny.
Note: Originally produced as motion picture in 1978.

Old Pics:

Author: Denny, Glen.
Title: Photographs of rock climbing in Yosemite Valley, Calif., 1962-1969.
Physical Description: 17 16x20" and 12 11x14" black & white silver gelatin prints, and 1 publication (3 print boxes).
Note: Included in the collection is the photo essay, "Yosemite quicksilver," in Alpinist Magazine #17 (Autumn 2006), and a 1967 calendar with 3 photographs by Denny.
Notes: Collection is open for research; material must be requested at least 24 hours in advance of intended use.
Scared Silly

Trad climber
UT
Sep 6, 2008 - 10:36am PT
Ed, I will have to shoot them again. I have no idea where the images are anymore.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 7, 2008 - 10:11pm PT
Ball's Guide to the Western Alps is the oldest in my library.


Loaded with dense maps of the various areas. This one is for the Monte Rosa area of the Pennines.

Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Sep 8, 2008 - 12:10am PT
Sticking to guidebooks, I have first edition copies of:

"Mountaineering and Exporation in the Selkirks" (Howard Palmer, 1914).
"The Selkirk Range of British Columbia" (A. O. Wheeler, 1905).

Plus "Fram Over Polhavet" (Fridtjof Nansen, 1898), better known in English as "Farthest North". You could think of it as a sort of guidebook for sailing across the Arctic Ocean.

Bump, for literature.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 25, 2009 - 07:34pm PT
hey Scared... any chance you might repost these?
luggi

Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
May 25, 2009 - 08:50pm PT
hot damn stuff!!
Scared Silly

Trad climber
UT
May 25, 2009 - 11:06pm PT
Ed, here ya go:

These are 4 of 6 mini guides that were published in the Sierra Club Bulletin as part of the "Climber's Guide to the High Sierra" I have parts 3-6 that were republished as little booklets from 1937 through 1942. Part 4 was "A Climber's Guide to Yosemite" Really cool.

These 6 parts were then published together as the Preliminary Edition of "A Climber's Guide To The High Sierra" in paper back in 1949.

In 1954 Henry Voge edited the first full version.

The Yosemite portion was then pulled out into a separate version by Roper in 1964 and was known as the little red book.



The bound edition of the Sierra reprints along with a 1872 first edition of Clarence Kings book.


Here are 4 of 5 of the original first edition Sierra Club guide books:


Here a couple from the Tetons. Fryxell book from 1932 and Coulter and McLane guide book from 1947.


Beckey's first Cascade guide book from 1949.


And one from Mt. Rainier circa 1920 by Joe Hazard who was a guide.


Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 25, 2009 - 11:10pm PT
thanks!

any chance of showing the contents of the Yosemite Guide?

Scared Silly

Trad climber
UT
May 25, 2009 - 11:27pm PT
Ed, no real index except what is on the last page.

Here is a pdf of the complete Yosemite guide.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 25, 2009 - 11:32pm PT
very cool! thanks Scared!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 26, 2009 - 01:15am PT
hi Scared, sorry to be a pill, but, could you show the descriptions for the two routes:

Lower Yosemite Fall

and

Sentinel Rock

I can't quite place them by the name alone...

thanks...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
May 26, 2009 - 01:31am PT
Anything I can do to help, Ken, let me know. Maybe you should post a list of things that need to be done and see if anyone in ST land can help.

As far as Guidebooks. Bar Harbor, Baby...or is it BahhhhHarbor, Skully? I have a Climbers Guide to Mount Desert Island. A Guide to Climbing Rock and Ice, Bouldering, Talus Running, Cross Country Skiing and Jogging in the Acadia National Park by Geoffrey Childs.

Front Page Quote...."I suggested that we'd better get a rope and do the thing properly." Don Williams, Portrait of a Mountaineer.

Geoffrey Childs
General Delivery
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
May 26, 2009 - 02:50am PT
This guide, the second printing (1956), would be in a lot better shape if I hadn't left it out one night about 1969 when it rained all night on us at Budd Lake without a tent. I keep it in a side pocket of my dad's canvas knapsack where there are still a few old band-aids and some ointment from BITD.


Scared Silly

Trad climber
UT
May 26, 2009 - 12:24pm PT
Library Establishes Armando Menocal Guidebook Collection

Photo: Yosemite guidebooks dating back as far as 1938. Photo by Armando Menocal.

The AAC Library soon will be the home to a unique collection of climbing guidebooks created by Armando Menocal over 40 years. The collection of 300 to 400 books includes such rare items as the first guides to Yosemite (1938), the High Sierra (1937), and Pinnacles National Monument (1939). Menocal, a founder of the Access Fund, started collecting guidebooks to help out with his work on climbing access. "Eventually I realized that guides are our legacy, inscribing climbers' deeds for all time, and they became a primary battleground for debating climbing ethics and trends," he said.

The Armando Menocal Guidebook Collection also will include original materials on which guides are based, such as descriptions of first ascents and route topos. The collection will solicit donations of other guides and first-ascent records so it continues to grow. According to Professor Jay Taylor, who has researched and written about climbing history for a decade, the collection will become "an incredibly important resource for both climbers and scholars."

Read Menocal's reflections on the genesis of the Armando Menocal Guidebook Collection at the AAC Library's blog, High Places.

http://aaclibrary.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/new-guidebook-collection-to-track-climbing-history/


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