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nopantsben
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Mar 24, 2013 - 09:23am PT
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you just tie the haulbag to the anchor as you would tie an injured person to an anchor.using a munter mule. voila.
if you do not know how to do that, you better check that first before you worry about haulbags!
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Paul Brennan
Trad climber
Ireland
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Mar 24, 2013 - 09:46am PT
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Very informative Ben. Thanks for that.
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Spanky
Social climber
boulder co
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Mar 24, 2013 - 09:58am PT
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Vitality, you have the right idea, just get a 20 ft piece of 7 or 8 ml perlon and attach it to your swivel or whatever master point is on top of the haulbag. Use a munter to attach it to the haul anchor and then tie it off with a mule knot. back up the pig with a clove hitch in the haul line and when you're ready to haul untie the clove, untie the mule and lower the bag off the munter thats already there. supa easy. I used to man handle the bags too until i decideded it sucked. If you havent lloked at a rock rescue book a lot of great ideas are in there and the pig is really just like dealing with a person except you're allowed to kick the pig.
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nopantsben
climber
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Mar 24, 2013 - 10:04am PT
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Paul sorry if this came across smart-assed. but seriously, the munter mule is important, you should practice it and know how to do it. there is some videos on youtube and a lot of other info all over the internet...
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Paul Brennan
Trad climber
Ireland
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Mar 24, 2013 - 10:35am PT
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I just looked at this thread again with the intention of redacting the previous post as sarcastic and unproductive. Will leave it there so your reply makes sense. That's my usual response for someone professing THE way of doing something, and implying other practices are somehow invalid though.
In reality Ben, I just hadn't looked at that technique before my last wall climbing trip and so used a method I was comfortable and confident with. I'll play around with Munter mules before my next wall trip. The main point of my first post was to illustrate that there are other, simpler and easy ways to release bags that don't necessitate one-arm-curling your bags with one arm and releasing them with the other.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Mar 24, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
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"I hang my bags off a sling, backed up by the lower out end of the haul line. To release the bags, I run the lower out line through a pulley to a grigri and use my body as a counterweight to lift the bags the couple of centimeters required to unclip the sling from the anchor. I'm too stupid for Munter mules, so like to keep it simple."
Yes, the mini-haul. An old school classic. Not an easy trick to accomplish, especially if you are on a hard nailup and have ten days or so of supplies in your pigs. If the pig weighs more than you, you may find yourself having to turn upside down and push against the rock with your feet to accomplish this task, while simultaneously attempting to unclip a carabiner.
"I used to man handle the bags too until I decided it sucked."
Ah. So there could be a Better Way... {wink}
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 24, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
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Yup, like not bringing the ground up with you <WANK>
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Mar 24, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
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So when was the last time you climbed a wall, there, Stevey old boy?
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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
Squamish
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Mar 24, 2013 - 07:39pm PT
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Real bigwallers don't wear profilactics.
When you smell the way they do, is there even a chance of needing one? ;)
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 24, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
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In as laughably poor style as your best effort, Pete old bean, hasn't happened yet.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Mar 24, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
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Some Wall Folk have better Promotion Departments than others.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Mar 25, 2013 - 11:23am PT
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Big wall techniques are a lot like the many, many different ways to brew coffee.
If you find one that you like and it works for you, then that's the perfect method for you.
There might be a "better" way, but if you like the method and result of the technique you're using, what can be better than that?
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
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Mar 25, 2013 - 04:59pm PT
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The Better Way was coined by Chongo and we all know he had a similar style as the guy who claims "The Better Way" now, haa haa.
Bridwell has been posting on Facebook... so, my vote is: Bridwell, Middendorf and John Long.
It doesn't matter to me if they are not current climbing walls... they are the most prolific, in my mind.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Is your profile pic Justin Beiber? Nice.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Klaus, Deuce and EC Pirate.
One of the best posts ever DMT . . . you are a clever man.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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That was funny as sh#t, Dingus!
If you find one that you like and it works for you, then that's the perfect method for you.
Well put. Jay-aero press-bro
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Dingus-
Fecking Awesum!
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nah000
climber
canuckistan
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"One time I napalmed the whole hill!"
nice work DMT, your whole post above is hilarious.
it's up there with yo's explication on the lowes as some of the funniest oc i've seen come out of this site.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Ho man, nearly busted my gut this morning--too funny. I'm not that old though!
Cheers
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dipper
climber
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Post of the year DMT.
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