Does the NRA have a stupid pill problem?

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Norton

Social climber

the Wastelands

Dec 21, 2012 - 03:12pm PT

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

so says the NRA chief spokesman today

Well, bullsh#t.

Jared Loughner's rampage in Tucson was stopped when he had to pause to reload. Brave UNARMED citizens used that window of opportunity to pounce on him.

PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber

Central Valley, CA

Dec 21, 2012 - 03:15pm PT

While violence is a characteristic of mental illness, not all mentally ill people are violent.

Why don't we listen to the experts? Such as world renowned forensic psychiatrist, Dr. Park Dietz, who is in this video at 1:40.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

rectorsquid

climber

Lake Tahoe

Dec 21, 2012 - 03:33pm PT

Public schools are already prisons. The kids are required by law to be there and have very limited ability to get out other than at organized yard time. Most schools are fenced in. Most have police of their own, at least part time.

Schools are already safer than most other places. This need to protect kids 100% in school then let them near a car or highway on the way home is absurd.

Dave

rectorsquid

climber

Lake Tahoe

Dec 21, 2012 - 03:37pm PT

As to the issue of an assault rifle competing against a pistol, the gun was not fully automatic. Is that type of semi-automatic rifle that mush easier to aim at the length of a classroom than a pistol?

Let's see, Glock handgun with 17 rounds in the clip against Bushmaster with ? rounds? The first three or four are the only rounds that will count so clip size is not really an issue.

Plus, if a teacher starts to shoot and misses, the attacker will still run for cover or be distracted from doing lots of evil.

I NOT NOT ADVOCATE teachers having guns in school, since there are no real gun dangers there anyhow, but arguments against it because of gun variations and coming from non-gun owners, are a little annoying.

Dave

FRUMY

Trad climber

SHERMAN OAKS,CA

Dec 21, 2012 - 03:42pm PT

Ya lets grow the government even more & put guards at every school. & how much more will that add to the U. S. debt.

Alan Rubin

climber

Amherst,MA.

Dec 21, 2012 - 03:49pm PT

As jghedge says above thetre were armed adults at the scene of the Giffords shooting--at least one was interviewed by the press. He chose not to shoot because in the--predictible--chaos it wasn't clear whom to shoot at,was afraid that he might hit innocent civilians, and was also afraid that the arriving cops would see him with a gun and shoot him. This is the reality of such situations--panic, chaos and uncertainty--that the NRA-types refuse to acknowledge in their assumption that more guns make things safer.

Alan Rubin

climber

Amherst,MA.

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:07pm PT

Also armed guard at Columbine, and armed cop arrived soon after. Both fired---both missed--killings continued.

cuvvy

Sport climber

arkansas

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:18pm PT

I think theyve got a massive hoard of stupid pills, so, no, they do not have a problem with stupid pills.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:23pm PT

Is Limbaugh an NRA member? Cause he's got a pill problem.

PSP also PP

Trad climber

Berkeley

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:25pm PT

http://www.meetthenra.org/nra-member/Harlon%20Carter

Harlon Carter changed the NRA form a hunting oriented association to a gun rights group . Convicted of murder in 1931 and sounds like an all-around A##hole based on his doings along the mexican border. One of the roots to this nonsense.

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:27pm PT

I can't believe what a disgusting selfish human being that LaPierre as#@&%e is.

Yeah let's insult the memory of those 20 children that died ONE WEEK ago by proposing more guns will solve the problem (and pad the pockets of his buddies) and blame everyone else but themselves.

Yeah armed guards are THE solution. Like a guy with an assault rifle wouldn't just take the guard out first.

I'm not even opposed to armed guards, especially at bad schools with a history of gun problems, but to ignore easy access to assault rifles and large capacity clips contributed to this tragedy is spineless and evil.

I was on the fence about assault rifles (I see the appeal of shooting them) but now I say f*#k it ban them with no grandfather clause this time.
Ban high capacity clips.
Ban armor piercing bullets.
Ban sniper rifles.
Pass laws requiring guns be locked up or serious consequences.
Pass laws limiting violent video games and movies to 18 plus with serious consequences for allowing a child to watch them.
Do a much better job with mental health treatment and teaching doctors and parents what to watch out for.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:28pm PT

I'm pretty sure that's one of the most crucial qualifications for NRA membership

I don't have health insurance though. Should I rob a Walgreens for the pills?

mojede

Trad climber

Butte, America

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:41pm PT

From the Harlon Carter bio off the NRA site:

Carter responded that arming dangerous individuals was “a price we pay for freedom.”

Just who the fack is supposed to pay this "price"????

Oh yeah, the majority and not the advocates...

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:47pm PT

That Samuel Jackson quote is a fake.

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Dec 21, 2012 - 04:50pm PT

Hey Donald, while we are cracking don on the rights of organizations that fill our citizens heads with nonsense, do not forget about the churches, the biggest purveyors of BS.

atchafalaya

Boulder climber

Dec 21, 2012 - 05:10pm PT

"monkey with the Constitution"

Hahahaha, nice Donald. "monkey" with the constitution sounds really bad. Do you mean "amend"? The framers created a process where the constitution could be amended if needed. Its been amended (i.e., monkeyed with) over 27 times. Have you heard about those later amendments? Were those only the acts of deranged liberals? hahahahah... please continue.

Bruce Morris

Social climber

Belmont, California

Dec 21, 2012 - 05:14pm PT

"They have a history of being powerless vassals and serfs who traded their freedom for security by an overlord."

The words of a rugged individualist without any historical perspective whatsoever.

What about Magna Carta and English common law? That's the common tradition of individual liberty in all the English-speaking democracies including the UK and the USA. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights are further extensions and modifications of the fundamental tenets of English common law.

We signed the North Atlantic Treaty and fought Hitler and the National Socialists together to defend those rights.

atchafalaya

Boulder climber

Dec 21, 2012 - 05:23pm PT

"We have so many thousands of service men and women coming out of service and need work.

Putting these well-trained patriots to work to protect our kids is a win-win."

You are an idiot if you think 20something year old veterans, some with PTSD, should be intentionally armed near our kids to protect them. Your an idiot anyways, but that statement was asinine. GFYS.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 21, 2012 - 05:28pm PT

GFYS

Easy there, Scooter.

You may disagree with Dean, I do, but lay off the haterade and be respectful.

Type what you'd say in person. Then duck, because that sort of sh#t will get your jaw broken in real life.

Just a heads up.