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Mick K
climber
Northern Sierra
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May 23, 2006 - 11:59am PT
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"There's no need for anyone to judge anything about her."
Isn't exactly what K-bird did when the bros came in and rained on her session.
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katiebird
Sport climber
austin
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2006 - 12:29pm PT
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hey happiegirl-
thanks for your post and understanding about the gym and such. i'd be down to take you up on that offer, so next time i'm in the big city i'll hit you up.
as for you dirtineye, sorry to so offend you. seems to me that you're the one with the problem. alls i said was that the gym sucked and in general so did the atmosphere. never said anything directed at you or your group of elitist friends. don't worry, i wouldn't want to climb with you anyways.
when did forums become these places where one gets ostracized for expressing views?
on a whole the gym i train at and coach at in austin is sweet. the people are great, the routes are good and i surely recommend it to any in the area. my post was by no means a slander of all gyms nor of the people that climb at them. it was simply a rant about one in particular and one visit in particular.
sheesh, people are sensitive.
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G_Gnome
Social climber
Tendonitis City
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May 23, 2006 - 12:40pm PT
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While I prefer climbing outside and make Stoney Point my destination on Tuesday and Thursday evenings when light is available, when it isn't I am inside the gym. I guess I would rather be climbing than complaining. And we have a great crew that are all fun to be with so the social scene is a plus instead of a minus. I am in much better shape after a wet winter now that I do climb indoors so I guess I am happy to be a gym climber. However, I can see how a gym might be intimidating if you are not a good climber, all that proximity to people better than yourself. You just need to realize that those people probably don't care how you climb, the fact that you are a climber is more important. Try being friendly and see what happens, you just might make some new friends.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 23, 2006 - 12:49pm PT
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LOL, yeah right cattybird, that's why I have friends all over the south-- nobody wants to climb with me because I am so awful, LOL.
And I am always trashing other climbers I don't even know, and when I post to a site for the first time, I try to make it all negative.
Elitist friends, yeah. That's right, I and all my elitist friends helped give beta and info to a climbing club that wanted to adventure a little in a remote area. Gee, you'd have thought they all had a good time and enjoyed my company from the looks on their faces.
WOW, us big mean elitists even invited the group to our secret batcave party, and wouldn't you know, everyone had fun there too!
Yep you sure have me pegged, LOL.
I'm going to guess you are under thirty.
Twerp.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 23, 2006 - 01:02pm PT
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To Mick K:
"There's no need for anyone to judge anything about her."
Isn't exactly what K-bird did when the bros came in and rained on her session."
Being that I have been at the gym she mentions, I can see exactly what happened to her, and have no doubt it was much as she described.
I "loved" 59th street when I first started climbing, and went 3 times a week. Got myself some really nice-looking arm muscles! hahaha.
But this winter, I tried to get back into going, as I didn't have money to travel and get outside. It was almost always a very frustrating experience. It really is very crowded, and you will have the guys with their dates who have never belayed. They have to take a lesson...and the staff at CCC does monitor things, but they can't be everywhere at once..... People refuse, even though requested, to anchor at belay when the weight difference is there. Then the climber pops off, and the belayer gets lifeted. Almost always banging into someone next to them, the place is that crowded.
And yes - if a girl went into the cave to boulder.....absolutely the guys would be there in a matter of minutes. Not the ones who are solid boulders; they wouldn't even notice. But....there are almost always people there looking to hook up(not that there's anything wrong with that!) and be "impressive" in their skills..... Ohhhh yeah....V minus Zero - send it, baby.....
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 01:43pm PT
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I'll go to a "gym" for a workout if I can't find rock - it's kind of fun, but I have to ask -how can anyone get used to the colored tape routes? It just confuses the hell out of me and I end up making my own sequences as I go...anybody else feel that way?
cheers, jb
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atchafalaya
Trad climber
California
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May 23, 2006 - 02:13pm PT
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rain + hippie lettuce + gym = fun
quit thinking so much, and get in there and get strong(er)! the gym in sac makes winter in sac a lot easier. Cant climb there when its nice outside though.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 23, 2006 - 02:14pm PT
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I'm not peeved, I enjoy laughing at twerps, and now I have two to laugh at. Thanks!
You are welcome to come flash any of my routes.
They are easy.
Really!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 23, 2006 - 02:16pm PT
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Author:
bachar
Trad climber
From: Mammoth Lakes, CA
I'll go to a "gym" for a workout if I can't find rock - it's kind of fun, but I have to ask -how can anyone get used to the colored tape routes? It just confuses the hell out of me and I end up making my own sequences as I go...anybody else feel that way?
cheers, jb
YOU mean, you don't put little pieces of tape on the rock when you climb?
How do you know where to go next then?
I need help with this right away, please tell me!
And this "making up sequences as you go along", is that allowed?
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
Tahoe
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May 23, 2006 - 02:39pm PT
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Well said, Locker.
Dirty - thanks for proving my point.
-Aaron
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ladd
Trad climber
land of fruits, nuts and flakes
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May 23, 2006 - 02:44pm PT
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happiegrrrl.... you just sparked what would have been a long forgotten memory - about those central park boulders.. Back in the early 80's, I was assigned to an off shore engineering systems pre-staging and acceptance testing site in NJ, and walking the streets of NYC during the weekends. Coming from a south Orange County beach town in CA., I felt like a lost and overwhelmed immigrant in the big apple - that is until I found those boulders in central park. I was amazed with the rock quality cept there was plentiful glass shards to be mindful, and homeless peoples "homes" on the top of some of the outcrops to not scare to death. What a trip...
cheers
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todd-gordon
climber
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May 23, 2006 - 02:47pm PT
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Meet chicks and get injured; climbing gyms.....enjoy.
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nb3000
Gym climber
Oakland, CA.
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May 23, 2006 - 02:47pm PT
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when did forums become these places where one gets ostracized for expressing views?
Welcome to the internet!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 23, 2006 - 02:53pm PT
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HEY locker, your panties are in a wad.
That's great you climb every day, wonderful. Spray more by all means. Like most people here have not at some point, but thanks for pointing out that I currently do not, I had forgotten about that part.
Now ask if I give a crap or need to wiggle one bit.
NO, I don't, LOL.
And I guess you will feel bad about this too when you get over yourself later. Seriously, do you ever consider how often you fly off the handle over nothing?
It's like clockwork.
Just keep on doing what you do so well, it's part of your charm!
Now excuse me for discounting harsh words from someone who describes himself so aptly as the village idiot.
Tahotwerp, you are welcome. Since you proved my point with your first post, it was the least I could do.
Twerps are twerps. Period.
But thank you both for being entertaining, if predictable!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 23, 2006 - 03:00pm PT
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Ladd....yes, that is an apt description for the CP boulders(in the Northwoods, at least, still. The ones down at the lower end of the park are spiffy and clean; no more needles and people poop. More likely the objective hazzards will be dog poo and kiddies who scrambled up the back and are trying to downclimb the fronts....with the parents oblivious....).
John - So long as you don't spray about sending that "awesome new green route that is so reachy and has stymied everyone's redpoint so far".....I suppose it isn't going to hurt anyone if you want to climb off-route..... I wonder if you ignore the white, powdered tape that everyone works so hard to maintain for the climbing community when you're outside either......
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NinjaChimp
climber
Davis, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 03:07pm PT
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I'm with you JB, I get paid to stick pieces of tape next to holds to tell people what to use and what not to use, but when I go in to climb myself I spend my whole time making up problems as I go. I don't have the patience for tape.
-Justin-
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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May 23, 2006 - 03:12pm PT
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I agree John, I just ignore the colors and climb. I still don't like climbing walls, but considering how much it rains in Ireland, then indoors down at the gym helps to keep in shape (that's not saying I'm in shape). I still have yet to visit a climbing gym as such, but the gym I belong to has a wall, so...
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 23, 2006 - 03:29pm PT
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I think the $250 still includes use of the facility - swimming pool and weight room....But not 100% sure.
The thing that NYC is good for, climbingwise...is the proximity to airports that will have decent flight schedules to most climbing destinations.....hahahah
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 04:14pm PT
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Justin, Patrick... good to hear I'm not the only one who doesn't use the tape! I just see sequences and all the possibilities (like on the rock). It would be cool if they had enough space to just set "anything goes" type routes so that you wouldn't have to tape them (I guess if they had more space, they'd squeeze even more routes in! ). Overall they're a pretty good workout but I never get to grab as many "first-knuckle crimpers" as I would like - it's always these rounded sloper holds and weird shapes. Oh well....
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Rara
Trad climber
Sanford, FL
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May 23, 2006 - 04:19pm PT
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yes...climbing gyms can suck. but when you live in flat florida, it's about my only haven for getting off the redundancy of the horizontal. hooray for aiguille! and yay for trips to the great outdoors!!
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