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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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I picked up a line6 pocket pod fairly recently for just over $50 on ebay. This thing blows away anything I had 30 years ago when I was a garage band guitarist. The best feature is an auxilliary input that you can connect to the headphone out on your laptop, so you can mix your guitar with a backing track, or whatever. I picked up a Mexican strat and that's all I need. I remember as a kid, the stratocaster seemed like a really high end guitar, now they are commonplace but still a really nice instrument to play.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2012 - 09:14pm PT
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Jebus-60's Tele. Gramps(RIP) would want you to blaze.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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keith played a maestro fuzz on no satisfaction.
sort of a gimmick-- stomp it on for that one riff, then stomp it off. he was into american stuff, so he was probably running a recent fender amp, so something bright and clean and scooped. havent seen a gear list for that session. but a single coil into a maestro into a blonde or silverface is prolly gonna sound a lot like that. either of yr champs might work. but since that's one of the most famous guitar riffs of the last fifty years, folks have worked out variations with other kinds of equipment.
the maestro was the earliest fuzz and the one you usually hear on 60s records with effects fuzz. sort of cheesy. more recent distortion pedals usually reach for something different-- even my 70s mxr doesnt sound like that. the fuzztone on my 50 dollar made-in-indonesia portable, though, sounds almost exactly like it. heh
maestro (it was a gibson line) also did the first phase shifter. designed to imitate a leslie rotating speaker setup. if i had a jillion dollars and wanted to do a seventies waylon cover band, i'd buy a maestro phase shifter.
http://www.freestompboxes.org/wiki/doku.php?id=maestro_fuzz-tone_fz-1
http://www.wingspreadrecords.com/maestro_ps1_page.html
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Talusfeeder
Social climber
Here
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I would never put a multi fx unit in front of those amps. I understand the place fot multi fx units, and even modelers, but I have just never clicked with any of them. I really enjoy the process of finding sounds, dialing them in, recalling them and tweaking them over time. I love the sound of a great guitar through a great tube amp, but I also really like creating interesting sounds. This is where the pedals come in...
Pedals shouldn't be responsible for the quality of your tone...simply tools to create sounds with.
Here is my current rig-I tour full time so this is likely to seem a bit overboard for the living room rocker, but I think any one of these pedals would be at least entertaining for anyone to play with.
I play Telecasters and Jaguars through Vox AC30's, AC50's and an Orange Thunderverb.
Pedals: (In no particular order)
Polytune Mini
Keeley Compressor
Drive:
Tube Screamer 808 clone
BB Drive
Double Muff
Cusack More Louder
Timmy
Fuzzface
Modulation:
Pog 2
Small Clone (CLASSIC!!!)
A/DA Flanger
Eventide Space
Micro-Synth
Wet Reverb
Delay
Nova Delay
Flashback
DD3
This is everything that is currently on my board. I also have an Eventide Time Factor, Strymon El Cap and a bunch of other delays. I use delay for almost every one of our songs and for the last year or so I have been almost exlusively using the Nova,Flashback and DD3.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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I'll read something about a song I like or hear something on the radio. Then I try messing with delay and other sounds and I can never get the tone I want. I screw around for an hour and I just set the dial to a Fender Twin with a little reverb and I'm happy again.
Pathetic!
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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No pedals on this one...
The Water is Wide
When I played in bands way long ago, I was poor, busy and stupid, and had a weird kludged set-up with crudely home-made this and that, and to my ears it sounded awesome for basic moderately crunchy guitar. Used a "Pearl Effector" overdrive pedal at a pretty low distortion setting into two amps: a 70s Fender Pro-Reverb (great for mid to high---I bought it for $200 from a 19yo jazz great Stanley Jordan as he asked his roommate, "What will I practice with?") with a resistor bridge on the speakers feeding a 60s Sears Silvertone (!) amp head into a home-made cabinet with a fancy 15" full-range speaker whose brand name was something like Grolsch?
http://mervspiegel.com/home.cfm
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Cooker
Mountain climber
LA, CA
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Have a look at what the professional gear whores with fine discrimination and infinite cash buy & play (whether you love or hate Eric Johnson, you've gotta respect the effort he has put into getting the right sound):
Main A/B switch:
A Side:
Vox Cry Baby (Late 60's)
through BK Butler Tube Driver (Mid 80's)
into a '68 Marshall 50 Watt Head
with a 4X12 Marshall Cabinet (Late '60's)
B Side:
Signal goes into a Secondary A/B Switch
A Side:
Echoplex (Mid '70's)
through a new T.C. Electronics Stereo Chorus
into 2 - Fender Deluxe Reverbs with JBL Speakers
B Side:
Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face
into a '68 50 Watt Marshall Head
with a 4X12 Marshall Cabinet (Late '60's)
http://ericjohnson.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10&Itemid=8
Tube amp, check, tube pedal check (BK Butler tube driver, try it you'll never plug in a boss distortion/blues driver pedal again)
Analog fuzz face, check.
Analog delay, check.
T.C. Electronics Stereo Chorus -- what? yeah, digital and it's quality. They also make a floor board/rack, the G-system. I don't own it, I ran out of money. Most digital pedals are garbage, with a few exceptions, TC Electronics qualifies, at least with the chorus and tremelo models.
Like the sound of David Gilmour? Oh, look an entire site about creating his setup.
http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=273
Notice the same fuzz face pedals, same BK Butler tube driver.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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I'm considering pros/cons of a new fangled multi-effects pedal vs. a board made up of separate pedals.
Great question.
As far as pros and cons of the two different types of setups, there are some real advantages to using the the new digital multi-effects units.
For one thing, there is only one battery vs. many batteries or power supplies.
For guys who use a lot of different effects in different songs or switching effects during a song a lot, like in a cover band for example, they are a god send.
They are programmable. You can dial in the sound you want, and save it to a preset and there are usually 100+ presets. Plus, that sound will always be available. No more spending a bunch of time trying to remember the settings and what combination of effects to get that certain sound or that one you used for a particular song etc..
If you are using a lot of different individual effects boxes, this can be quite time consuming. When playing live using multiple boxes, you have to memorize the dance steps of stomping the different effects on and of and in the right sequence etc.
The only cons of the small cheaper digital units is that they tend to be quite noisy. Most "pedal" effects are fairly noisy though and it's just something you have to deal with. They are not studio quality!
They are fun tho. I have a Digitech myself and think it is fun to have all those effect available to play with. I also have a Cry-Baby and have had many different pedals including my favorite, the Fuzz Face! A must for Purple Haze!
That being said, If you are in an AC/DC cover band, you don't need one.
A Marshall JCM800 and an SG will do.
The real question is, what kind of sound are you looking for?
Are you looking for something to use for live gigs? for recording?
If it's just for messing around and goofing off with, I think they are well worth the money.
$50 at guitar center
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aldude
climber
Monument Manor
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Just go with the Marshall & SG........
*actually the RP kicks ass when you don't want to blow out windows!!
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Great music and nice mando there Chinchen. How long have you been playing it? Big respects to you for building it uself....did you post any links to this on the whatyabuilding thread???
To the OP:
I learned to appreciate simple stuff and like pedals over the rack-mounted effects. Ultimately I gave up pedals, but when I was a pedal head I favored the MXR distortion +, Boss chorus, phase shifter (rarely used) and that's about it.
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perswig
climber
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No help w/ the pedals thing, but...
nice acoustic stuff Murcy and Ron A, and always like the Eastside 5 vibe, Chinchen.
Dale
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Pickups and amp ARE the most important thing for good sound.
I have a fat strat (a custom built strat with seymour duncan humbcukers=fat sound) and it sounds much better than my 76 Les Paul.
I have a Marshall JCM 800 all tube amp. You can approximate the sound with digital, but never replicate the warmth, and awesome sustaining feedback you can get out of all tube.
I love digital for many things. For recordings and photo/video it's great. But I defineatly notice digital in my guitar chain, and don't like it. I had a multi effect digital processor but sold it.
The most important pedal to me is a Vox wah. You simply can't make wah sounds (ala Jimi Hendrix) without it. You can also use it as a volume pedal. You can leave it sitting with just a little bit of wah to get a cool sound.
I usually get enough distortion out of my amp but if I want the little extra push over the cliff I have a boutique 808 tube screamer. Boutique pedals are recreations of classic pedals by small shops using the same parts and techniques. Ibanez made the original tube screamer (and old originals are expensive), it gives you extra distortion for a tube amp without really changing the sound.
The I have a boutique version of the MXR Phase 90, this is the swirling sound Eddie Van Halen has sometimes.
And I have a digital delay. And although I like to effect of the various sounds you can get I hear the digital sound as soon as I turn it on, so I rarely use it. I need to get an analog delay.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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nice walking bass on winter wonderland
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
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funny .Vox wah is the only pedal I have.
Anyone play with looping pedals?
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Chappy5150
climber
Denver, CO
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i dont have any recordings converted-- i havent recorded since four tracks were replaced by computers. so if any of you have recs for a decent interface-- mike to mac -- pitch them out there.
I'd recommend the Apogee ONE. Great converters for the price. Also very easy to use with Garageband and Logic. I did a review on my Youtube channel (check the video below)
As for recommendations, I'm more of a metal guy, but keep things simple. The multi-effect pedals are garbage. As a rule of thumb, I will never purchase anything with Line 6 or BOSS on the box. What I've found is you will normally spend the money, only to replace them in the future. For cleans, delay and reverb pedals work great (think Maxon, Ibanez, MXR), along with a compressor pedal. For the dirty channels, overdrive pedals are the only thing I use (usually as a clean boost).
Seems like quite a few guitarists posting here, anyone care to post up audio or video of their guitar playing? I would love to hear it.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Edwardmw
climber
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Keep in mind, all who plug straight in to the amp, the sound guy at a live show, or the engineer in the studio is almost certainly putting effects on your guitar signal, EQ,compression,reverb, chorus and delay for solo's etc, so much for plugging straight in to the amp, the final product will probably not be a dry signal.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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^^^ Re. @ 1:51… There we go!!! Something that won’t put me to sleep! And tuned down to “C” no less. Nice tone and riffs at the end there with the lead channel, Chappy.
Edit: Killswitch fan?
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Chappy5150
climber
Denver, CO
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^^^ Re. @ 1:51… There we go!!! Something that won’t put me to sleep! And tuned down to “C” no less. Nice tone and riffs at the end there with the lead channel, Chappy.
Edit: Killswitch fan?
Thanks. I'm a huge Killswitch fan.
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