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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Jul 13, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
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death is sedective to curious souls.
padded life is foolery.
thus we slam our physical, emotional and mental selves
agains the sharp edge of reason,
and in doing so our hardened fizz-eek dulls that
which cuts through life's fat,
and we have to then work harder to stay
enlivened so the cycle begs us onward
until thresholds are achieved,
and then we just reinvent thresholds
cause social paradigms are ridiculous,
and then those extended thresholds cannot
be knudged beyond (except by our friend alex honnold)
and then the whole screamin mess of
world banter becomes beautiful silence.
fear is candy.
death is a buzz.
life is death's stool.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2012 - 03:19pm PT
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Maybe I need to rephrase the question:
What would you do, if you were not afraid to do it?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jul 13, 2012 - 03:21pm PT
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What I always do
Fear is my bodies last resort telling me to goddamn stop what I am doing you as#@&%e.. you r gonne get us killed, fired, single, or something worse.
I should probably listen to it more than I do.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Jul 13, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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Massive amounts of LSD
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
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That's the kind of answer I was looking for - lol. My personal fear-limited goals are not climbing related, and involve my work as a human rights lawyer. ie, travel in rural Afghanistan/Pakistan/Colombia, dealing with lots of people who might kill me. Where I live in Colombia is totally controlled by drug traffickers. I worked on defense of Saddam Hussein, in which 4 of the 10 attorneys on the case were assassinated before it was over. It is also pretty intimidating to be in federal court representing a terrorist with the FBI saying I'm a terrorist too, for representing them. I would like to say that I am not afraid of anything in my life, but I'm not there yet. As for taking massive dosages of LSD, I'm afraid of that too!
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jstan
climber
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Jul 13, 2012 - 05:07pm PT
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I trust your real name is not Don Paul.
I suppose a lawyer vulnerable to assassination could try to appear ineffective to the public. But you have to assume there are moles on the prosecutorial side. If one is effective, it will be known.
Don, you are on the front line fighting against the ratinization of our specie.
Props without limit.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 13, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
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Don, you are on the front line fighting against the ratinization of our specie.
Props without limit.
Hear, hear! Having represented a few unpopular clients in civil matters, I can only imagine what you've been through.
John
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Jul 13, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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... Ron Paul's doppleganger...
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Some Random Guy
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Jul 13, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
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Massive amounts of LSD
been there done that, gets old fast. if you want to go full balls out smoke dmt.
personally, i'd bang shitloads of whores
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Jul 13, 2012 - 06:02pm PT
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anything will get old with enough time and with a lack of change with or without fear.
The OP is a thought experiment: what would do if you weren't held back by a fear that you didn't want either fully or partially, is a better way to say it.
BASE for sure, but it's the fear that gives the rush.
MOTO - Isle of Man racing
A5 for sure, but of course again, tricking fear and death into submission is the real game there.
White Water Kayaking -
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2012 - 06:02pm PT
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Thanks for the praise above. I found that I can go places that other people won't go, assess risks, get in and out alive, be able to reverse and retreat, try a different way or come back another time, deal with unforseen and dangerous problems - all climbing related skills. I think of it in terms of dealing with unknowns and risks, rather than avoiding them - most people don't have this mentality. It's a topic that supertopo members could understand, but not a lot of others and definitely not a lot of lawyers.
stzzo - irrational fear is another way to put it. You have accepted that the risk is worth taking, and made a rational choice to do it, but taking the plunge may still be too intimidating. For example, if you can climb a well-protected 5.10, you can probably solo it. You would be so wired soloing, climbing with so much focus, the risk may be less than you think. Rational or not, it's a limitation. I'm sure we all have lots of them.
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MikeL
climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
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Jul 13, 2012 - 09:20pm PT
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I can't help but snicker. "Irrational fear" . . . . what is That? Does that mean to have a fear of something that one shouldn't fear? Does that mean a fear that cannot be calculated or measured through some kind of system or formula of weighing out costs and benefits?
Irrational fear is almost religious or metaphysical. The idea deserves paragraphs.
What should you be afraid of, and why? What shouldn't you be afraid of?
Forget paragraphs . . . pages!
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