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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 21, 2012 - 10:59pm PT
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I've proposed in the past that the solution is to declare taggers a "game bird species" and make it legal to hunt them, shotgun only, no larger than 7-1/2 shot.
Only the ones aggressive enough to charge hunters would likely perish, but enough of them would end up lookin' like James Olmos to put a damper on the activity.
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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Mar 22, 2012 - 12:16am PT
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I'm not much help on how to get it off, but I will be help in man power. I live near the base of hwy 9 and am ready to help. Lmk when this is happening (when it re-opens)
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 22, 2012 - 02:12am PT
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all in jim
climber
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Mar 22, 2012 - 02:17am PT
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Why not a wire brush? It will easily remove the paint (and a little rock).
Easier to control than sandblasting or chemicals, I'd think.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Mar 22, 2012 - 09:55am PT
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I've used stripper on granite at Joshua Tree in a clean up project for the park last year.
Also, I used to strip furniture for a living and have spent many long hours working with that stuff. (explains a lot)
Sandstone, being porous, is going to absorb the paint or dissolved paint. But, depending on the formation, tends to exfoliate itself.
Suggestion: If you go in with stripper right after it rains while the rock is saturated with water, it would theoretically prevent dissolved paint from soaking in and clean up would be easier.
NO easy solutions here.
Ultimately, nature will wash away all trace of mankind.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Mar 22, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
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Quote HCons: It's a large time-commitment, you have to baby sit it and keep people away while it works, you have to haul a LOT of water in to clean it up. Toxic and difficult to clean off climbing routes IMO.
ere Great stuff to use in an area that just had a closure lifted for protected birds.
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MisterE
Social climber
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Mar 23, 2012 - 01:22am PT
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I tried a couple of strippers at Stoney Point today, they just ended up leaving with a couple of Guidos.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Mar 23, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
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Being a 39 year Stoney Point climber, I can speak from experience.
Its best to NOT TRY to remove the ugly ART.
The worst thing is Sandblasting or hi-pressure water blasting.
These methods not only remove the ART but they remove the problems and the patina that makes the sandstone climbable.
Some "do gooders" tried this at Stoney. Lucky for climbers Bob Kamps was there and he jumped in and physically stopped the blasters. He then used his connections at the LA Parks department and they got a represatitive down there ASAP and they officially stopped the blasting.
The next worse thing to do is to paint over the art. some other do-gooders painted over the art .... this ruins the problems too, they become slick as snot, and unclimbable as well.
So I guess it's best to use the art as reference points. Heck that's how TURLOCK boulder and THE JESUS WALL got named.
To bad the LEOS only worry about climbers and care if they are totin in beers and not watching out for the taggers...
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