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Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Feb 21, 2012 - 11:50am PT
Rox wrote: Bob, we need to get something straight. I ain't as nice a guy as you remember. Give the credit for your ride home all those many years ago to Chris C. I think he was the reason you got a ride from me, I would have let you hitch. You asked him and he asked me.


What are you talking about?

WBraun

climber
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:02pm PT
This Hiker guy needs go next .....
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:05pm PT
Oh, BIG Victory. Yeah, EVERYTHING is going to chance, because some pussy assed climbers have managed to increase their sense of exclusivity and intense uniqueness by running of an old woman who just wanted to hang out and post on political threads.


Yeah, you guys are BIG BAD Mountain Climbers. Liberal and educated to a fault.

God Damn damn pussies.



You guys ain't a pimple on a mans ass. Your behaviour is inexcusable and as generous and bold as a pile of ants stripping a chicken bone. She whupped your asses raw, and the lack of your hospitality, your evident cliquishness and your lack of personal tolerance speaks volumes to your ability to lie to yourselves about what kind of people you really are.


Yeah, Big Brave Men, Performing At The Pinnacle of Their Sport and admired by all.

Well, you just managed to banish an old gal who was actually enamored with what you do, and now she gets to pay for her association with us. Yeah, you guys make me real Proud of the personalities within the sport. You guys are SO much better than HER.

In your own f*#king messed up minds.



You guys can start working on me again, and every other poster whose harmless opinions you don't want to hear. What BOLD men you are.


i agree with rox.

this site is a joke in so far as for every one good post or thread there are 100 that truly suck. yeah i am part of the 99% so ban me mofo....
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:06pm PT
because some climbers have managed to increase their sense of exclusivity and intense uniqueness by running of an old woman who just wanted to hang out and post on political threads.



Exactly, Rox...

I smell smoke from Salem!

You and I need kiss the Blarney Stone or refine our flattery and apple polishing skills lest we go next, sir.

It's not too late to turn toady and curry favor with the inner circle. Filth spewing luminaries will always have a place here...Lois just didn't understand fawning and adulation were requisite fire insurance for commoners.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:08pm PT
Rokjox

LEB had focus. She/he/they went for Happie. You are much too unfocused to get nuked. You're all over the place when you're arguing. It's impossible to see who you are hitting.

monolith: A good picture - I see Rokjox playing loud and rough in the backyard of ST

Edited.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
At CMacs home, it's ok for the kids to play loud and rough in the backyard, but when the football breaks a window, better run.
jstan

climber
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:14pm PT
My first contact with climbers came on a trip when I and another were causing more of a fuss than we might have. Hallam Murray, the leader, said to us, "Be careful now. You too can be replaced by a nonlinear servomechanism."

I was at the cliff only because I wanted to go back into the Adirondacks knowing how to use that rope thing. What Hal said persuaded me climbers were wonderfully interesting people, so I never got away. I come here to supertopo for that same reason.

May I pose a question? The internet is offering us something frankly revolutionary.





(Locker space)





Are we making the best possible use of it?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:16pm PT
Hopefully CMac and Co. run an ip analysis and blow off duplicate avatars on a regular basis.

With regard to the LEB, the shift in authoring was so painfully obvious I'm still surprised anyone kept responding to the avatar as though it was a real person. Hard to imagine what benefits the author was enjoying, but it's a funny world...
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
cmac and the taliban are related.

eff em.

i hope their post count sputters to nothing so they lose advertisers.

ST.com, the new alternative to rc.com.
Prod

Trad climber
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:19pm PT
Last I recalled this site belongs to C-Mac. It is not the readers site. Chris is free to nix people willy nilly if he so chooses.

The Taliban is a group Werner. From a political structure point of view, this would be closer to a Monarchy, or maybe an Oligarchy, I'm not sure if Chris has deligated power to others? Whatever the case, while DRAMATIC, your Taliban analogy does not really fit.

Prod.

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
Rox wrote: I don't really think it matters. Everybody creates their reality in their own minds about what their personal history is, and that completely irrespective of the facts. If you want to remember me as a nice guy, I should let you.


You are creating your right now. I don't remember ever being in a car with you.
Prod

Trad climber
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
I think he is confusing you with BVB?

Prod.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:26pm PT
Now that LEB is gone, Glanton needs to be whacked, too.

After this thread runs it's course, he/she/it won't have anything left here.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:32pm PT
Rox wrote: No, you ain't WORTH what I already have said.


Cause it never happened.


Coming from a drunk/stoner who is being supported by his wife that really means a lot.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:32pm PT
I defended LEB's account status a while back saying something like "I usually just ignore her posts, do the same and don't worry about her", and someone wise replied "Yes but when someone posts over and over to the same thread they monopolize the conversation and make it all about them, and pretty soon they thread has drifted into a worthless direction". I just read the sobriety thread and that's exactly what happened there.

I'm perfectly fine with the following Whackamole offenses:

1. Ruining a CMAC thread. It's his friggin' site, duh.
2. Posting incessantly. If someone usually posts multiple times in the 20 posts per page and don't add anything to the thread but their neediness they need to step away from the computer.
3. Being an as#@&%e constantly. I don't understand why some people think this is a good approach to life and relationships. I guess they don't have a choice, but I don't want those people around me.
4. Posting photos of blue butt plugs

Of course most people guilty of 1-3 won't see they've done anything wrong and will fall right into a victim mentality and blame others, but that's part of their personality disorder, probably nothing you can do about that.
apogee

climber
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:39pm PT
"I think it's obvious what is going on and I also think it is WORKING..."

When the Big Hit happened, I thought the rationale for their whacking seemed pretty obvious...then more stuff started oozing out about what was really going on behind the ST scene, and I gained a very different opinion. One of those whackings had some really twisted shite going on, which caused my support for that person to evaporate.

With that experience in mind, I'm gonna reserve judgement on whether Lois's whacking was really justified. Too often, there's stuff going on that is not in view that sheds a very different light on things.

I will say that it's too bad Lois got the chop- she could be annoying as shite, but she also had the ability to be quite lucid and interesting. Like any troll, the fact that many found her annoying was as much a reflection on their lack of ability to not engage her as anything she ever actually said.

Whatever the rationale has been for these latest whackings, I'd say there has definitely been a change, for the better. The tone is less negative, more respectful, and interesting discussions are actually happening. OT threads have also declined, much to the relief of others. Here's to hoping it continues in this direction.

Edit: Fet's # 3 is right on the $$
"Being an as#@&%e constantly. I don't understand why some people think this is a good approach to life and relationships. I guess they don't have a choice, but I don't want those people around me."
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
glad you found work, Rox!
Prod

Trad climber
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
Hey Rox,

Do you know that Bob D'A and BVB are not the same person?

Prod.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
Rokjox said:
"F-O BVB, you ain't got sh#t to talk."

Hold on just a damned min. Rok - as he indicated above, Bob'D is Bob Dantonio and says he's never been in a car with you. BVB is Bob Van Belle.

Step away from the bong sir:-)


Locker style edit: Prod and I posted the same-same at the same time.
Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
Feb 21, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
I posted this a few times in the past when some people got fired up about the need for a moderator, which I disagreed with.

Chris built this virtual deli. Most people come sit at the tables, get drunk, chat, argue, and occasionally buy one of his sandwiches.

Some people come to the deli just for the world-famous sandwiches, but they get really peeved that so many tables are filled with people that yak endlessly about things other than sandwiches. Even though there is an endless supply of tables, even though they don't have to sit and listen to the others, and even though they are free to talk about sandwiches as much as they want--with only the occasional and minor interruption--to them it just doesn't seem right. They say things like, "how dare they, this place is about sandwiches, dammit!" and "this is a travesty, there oughta be a law". They desperately desire that the guy at the other table, who used to be a master sandwich maker, would confide in them all the mysterious sandwich making arcana they so desperately crave, but alas it is not to be, he only speaks of fishsticks, fudgesickles and the Atkin's diet.

Meanwhile, Chris--who says things like, "I just wanna give back to the sanwich eatin' comminunitty, cuz ya know, gee whiz, aw shucks, sanwich eatin' has given so much to me,"--is out as much as possible eating, eating, eating the sandwiches of the world--research he calls it--while at the same time buying property like crazy in the red-hot Tahoe market, when of a sudden he gets a call from the deli manager. It turns out the suggestion box has had a few impassioned complaints about people who wilfully refuse to talk about sandwiches.

Chris must make an appearance, because these are the dorks who buy three sandwiches: one to eat now, one to eat later, and one to be kept cryogenically frozen at home and displayed with reverence to all who visit.

But Chris must proceed carefully if he is to continue his "research" and maintain his portentous property portfolio; on the one hand he must calm the minority dweebs, but on the other hand he cannot be too vociferous lest he drive off the masses that, while definitely less sandwichcentric, actually do buy more sandwiches, all tolled, than their bumbly brethren.

As usual Chris manages, with his endearing Richie Cunninghamesque charm to bring peace to the deli, and one and all proclaim that C-Mac is our "Sandwich Hero".


But the problem being dealt with now at CMac's deli isn't that some talk about things other than sandwiches and others wish everyone would only be allowed to talk about sandwiches--just look at the variety of sandwich and non-sandwich tables that everyone is still free to sit in on or not.

The problem is that some people have been going around from table to table shitting on all the benches, spitting in the faces of the others at the tables and incessantly yelling ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! at the top of their lungs.
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