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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 24, 2012 - 02:32am PT
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I've driven that road (El portal to Foresta)in a '70 VW bus, bitd... And I agree!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 24, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
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Did someone leave the door open? the wind or something is whining again...
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 24, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
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Rocky -- "Idahoans don't turn around for that sh#t, we go to work and clear a lane."
I've actually witnessed this.
Me and Shipley coming around a bend Northern Idaho and rocks all over the road.
Everyone that came on that scene at that moment got out their cars and moved the rocks along with us.
Walt said "Hey people up here are cool".
Next, lower Merced Canyon just below the cookie on 140.
Rock fall right in front of us all over the road on our way to Arch rock.
One was pretty big and me and merry barely could move it after working on it for a while.
The dumb azz stupid retard people that showed up at the same time all just sat in cars and watched.
Nobody got out of their cars ever nor even tried to help ....
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jan 24, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
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A few years back I was hitching home to Meyers from Strawberry after work. My ride was this dude Barak who worked for the FS in P-Ville and had given me a ride a few times prior.
So, we're headed down Echo into the basin and we have to stop because there is a large dog sized rock in the middle of the road. Barak puts the hazards on and we move the rock after a few minutes of work.
The whole time, traffic is piling up in both directions, nobody bothered to get out of their cars and help.
It was a lesson in the furthering of our countries laziness and disconnect from fellow humans.
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YosemiteSteve
Trad climber
CA
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Jan 24, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
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I'm a naturalized Californian, and I've moved rocks, dragged logs and bucked up trees to clear roads before, but I can't do that for this slide cuz the road is closed by a gate at both ends.
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Phil_B
Social climber
Hercules, CA
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Jan 24, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
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Heck, I'm a native Californian and I've helped move rocks when they were blocking the way on a kayaking run. I've not come across rocks when on climbing trips yet.
I remember one rock on 140 before the Ferguson slide totally went. We were going to go back and move it off the road if it was still there. It probably is, but I won't be moving that rock anytime soon. . .
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 24, 2012 - 05:11pm PT
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People, help?
Last season doing trailwork, we had a climber ask if we could hold off on using our gas-powered winch until she was done climbing, because the fumes upset her breathing(we were there, set up, and already at work when she arrived, using the devise to haul hundred-plus pound rocks up the talus slope to reinforce the slope at the base of the climb she wanted)
and we had a group of CforC people who camped out on a climb and TR'd the thing for hours while we worked feet away. They apparently didn't like the noise we were making as we communicated the coordination of hauling stone piles up the slope(with the gas-powered winch) and raised their voices to be heard above us. After all - telling stories of their weekends are more important than us being able to tell someone to cut the engine because there was a hangup in the metal cable... I had to ASK a woman to move away from me as I was using the grip hoist, because she didn't seem to get the hint she was belaying in the area I was swinging the lever... And they got pissed off when I told them we needed their cooperation if they intended to saty - STFU and get out of our way!
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Jan 24, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
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Was the second car that came upon a lot of rocks that came down just above Camp 9, just past Tioga Pass. There were probably 10 people out moving rocks to clear the road. I think the small refrigerator sized one that smashed in the guard rail on the far side of the highway had people thinking it was wise to get the $hit out of the road and get moving instead of sitting there waiting for more to come down.
I dislike Italy, had some really bad experiences there, but I don't go out of my way to talk about how $hitty I think it is in EVERY discussion. Give it up. We get it.
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YosemiteSteve
Trad climber
CA
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Jan 24, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
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Gettin' 'er done!
Workers today are busy clearing the debris from Sunday night's rockfall on the Big Oak Flat Road. Once the debris is cleared later this week, we hope to provide an estimate on an opening timeline.
http://www.facebook.com/YosemiteNPS
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jan 24, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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four more years of what?
a bunch of tea baggers hangin around dennys?
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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Jan 25, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
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If he was still kicking, Evel Knievel could still get into the valley.
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scuffy b
climber
heading slowly NNW
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Jan 25, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
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Because he can read a road map?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Jan 25, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
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Because he can read a road map?
Hahahaha111!!!11!.
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gstock
climber
Yosemite Valley
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:26pm PT
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Here is a photo taken on Monday morning from the Wawona tunnel showing the rock-fall source area (yellow circle), runout path through the trees and across the Big Oak Flat Road, and the final boulder deposition location (look for the huge boulder at the base of the slide runout path).
Greg Stock
Yosemite Park Geologist
(209) 379-1420
greg_stock@nps.gov
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
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New approach!
Straight to the choss!
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Sean Jones
climber
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
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Funny, this doesn't have to be some multi month closure. They move mountains all over the world, fly to space, and so on...... the big thing is to be sure there's not more coming down. Once you establish that, you just go fix it. period.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
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I like that photo greg. Thanks
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
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What is cool (I think) is to see what a small circle of slide origin area can do so much damage. I can't wait to see what Lost Arrow, Boot Flake or the "trunk" on Elephant Rock will do when they cut loose!
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bearbnz
Trad climber
East Side, California
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Jan 25, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
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Greg, do ypu have a volume estimate for this event yet? As big as a house was how it was described by the Park spokesperson, but how big of a house?
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gstock
climber
Yosemite Valley
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Jan 25, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
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The large boulder that did most of the damage is about 5 x 7 x 8 m, or about 280 cubic meters (about 750 metric tons). There is an additional 200 cubic meters or so of fresh rock debris on the slope that was either shaved off of the boulder by impacts or mobilized from the cliff and/or talus slope. Ignoring another 20 or so cubic meters of debris from the retaining wall, the overall volume was about 480 cubic meters (about 1300 tons).
That is quite a bit smaller than the average US house (2700 cubic meters), but it's bigger than some of the studios I lived in in grad school!
This event was larger than anything that occurred in 2011, but is fairly typical by Yosemite standards. Consider that the largest rock fall in Yosemite's recorded history was about 600,000 cubic meters (the 1987 Middle Brother rock fall), and some prehistoric events were as large as 11 million cubic meters (!).
Greg
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