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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2011 - 03:23pm PT
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Russ, Awesome set of old pitons! Wow what a treasure! Thanks for sharing it with me. Unfortunately I have all of the items already except for the aluminum Marwa carabiner. The last piton shown is a Grivel Piton from the 1950s, not a Brivel. I hope all is awesome in life and Susan isn't working you to much on the house renovations!
Say hello to Susan (Marty's Angel) for me.
For all of you evil ones my armor is on....sticks and stones.....hmm.....didn't feel them.
Marty
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Sell my collection for money, that's funny! Lucifer is money. He has you all hooked on his "Money" drug!" I have so many people in my life that will give me their house if I lose mine. You actually think I am worried about my life? I HAVE JESUS
So it is okay to leach off hard working people supporting their family so you can keep your gear hoard in the name of God? Seems to me it is more noble to take care of your family than hold on to a bunch of material goods.
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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Weird ass letter to climbers.
A sentence claiming "life changing" BS
One sentence praising one's self.
Another chastising climbers.
Another begging.
Another praising other collectors then taking it back.
Donating gear the say why would I do that if it just sits in a box unused.
Get your head out of your ass marty and feed/house the family.
Stop buying gear and video games.
Suze Orman needs to kick your butt.
http://www.suzeorman.com/
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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So it is okay to leach off hard working people supporting their family so you can keep your gear hoard in the name of God? Seems to me it is more noble to take care of your family than hold on to a bunch of material goods.
Second that.
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Kurt Ettinger
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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I agree with MTuck. Weird post. All over the map
Yes that money is evil...now give me some you Bas#terds HaHHHAAA!!
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Feel good to kick someone while they are down and having some problems?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Marty has found the LORD!
HA hA hA marty your thread is boaring!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Hoh man!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2011 - 06:40pm PT
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Ken, I found some cool stuff to send to you.
Let's start with these. Thank you Don Lauria for believing in me all of these years in holding these priceless treasures. These are the original stamps which William 'Dolt' Feuerer used to stamp his product signature on every piece of gear he sold. Ken these are yours for free.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
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Ken, Here are a few more items for your museum.
4 1/2"LONGware Bong and 3 Ring Angle Hooks. These items were used by Jim Bridwell throughout the 1960s when at that time he was developing the hardest aid routes in the world. These items were used to ascend many of those routes. Thank you Jim, Peggy and Layton for believing in me all of these years. Even though you went through tough times yourselves, you always welcomed me into your house, fed me, and insisted I stay for the night. The Bridwell family has a bigger heart than any of you know. Well, I am sure that Todd has felt this too. I also have authenticity papers that will accompany these items.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2011 - 08:16pm PT
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It is interesting that so many have missed the point. I have an amazing life! I have an amazing job! My kids are wonderful and are totally fine. My house is awesome but financially upside-down like probably everybody else who owns a house! We just want to move on. All I asked is for somebody to create a place so I can GIVE my gear to them. I do not want it anymore. But this translates into Marty being greedy? I bet thousands of climbers thought that Tom Frost was a fool for leaving Chouinard back in the 1970s. But Tom became a millionaire two more times after that! He moved on to explore other things in his life. I want to move on. I said that Marty found God, and that makes me dumb? So everybody in the world that wants to get closer to God is Dumb too?
Thousands of climbers have donated their gear to me because it was intended to end up in a museum. These items can not be sold because of my promise to these thousands. I feel everyday that I am going to come home and it will all be ripped off, or the house burned down or who knows. I pay hundreds for insurance plans and storage fees because there is nowhere for the gear to go. Collecting stuff is a personal passion of mine and I do not see it as a problem. I just want to move on.
There is no worry. Ken is going to get all of my Yosemite gear and that is mentioned on many other threads as well. The only reason he has not received it yet is because the Yosemite Museum was a traveling display. I was waiting for his museum to become a permanent location before I sent the gear.
Stephane, what do you need? Can you send me thousands of your dollars to cover shipping fees to Corsica? I know every penny you have is going into your sons education but the gear is more important, right?
Can't people see the trap I feel that I am in?
Tucker - You ruin every thread you post on. But you say I have a problem?
johntp - No leaching, just giving my gear away for free.
Pyro - That BD full set of cams I had for you, Bummer, looks like you are on the Naughty List…..
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go-B
climber
Sozo
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Your doing a good thing Marty!
God Bless!
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Johnny K.
climber
Southern California
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Marty I respect what you have done over the years and what you are trying to convey.The fact of the matter is majority of people have financial issues and keeping things "settled down". Everyone has to take care of themselves and their family.The individual has to make the decision to move on and situate everything.You can not rely on anyone else,or expect anyone to really understand your situation in words of circles.
You want to move on,just move on Marty. It really is that simple.The lord will help you with direction if you keep your hope and faith in what you want to do.Talking about other people's situation or decisions in their life,talking about money,talking about the gear etc,it makes no difference on what YOU do in the end.What you think is right for you,is what you should do.
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Vulcan
Sport climber
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i don't think chris s. has a climbing camp for kids.
i do think he helps andy at his climbing camp for kids.
it is yo basecamp for climbing.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Awesome Marty, your name will no doubt live on long after your soul has left the building. I can see now, more than ever, that the the Yosemite Museum will be a reality. Your amazing collection of gear will be the bedrock of the place. Wow?!
We're all just buying time on this earth till we all take a dirt nap, but some of us will leave a mark significantly bigger than a few words tearing down our brothers. Those are the folks that will be remembered. I can see it was meant to be. Congrats and simultaneous thanks!
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Juan Maderita
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Hi Marty,
First off, I's like to say that your dedication to collecting and preserving those thousands of pieces of climbing history is appreciated. I happily donated some obscure unused bolt hangers to your collection a decade ago.
Several people have derided your thoughts, in rude fashion, over your posts. Perhaps those same people are threatened by someone who is enagaged in an existential struggle, trying to sort out the meaning and purpose in life, reset personal goals, and move forward. I'm sorry that others have been thoughtless and dismissive, instead of responding with compassion.
Your posts have been described as "weird" and "all over the map."
There are moments of wisdom and logic too. As a mental health provider, I notice several indicators of a possible problem. It would be wise to sort that out with a professional. That might be difficult for you due to distrust of psychotropic medication, doctors, and people who thought you were delusional. Knowing that you probably won't appreciate this feedback, I feel obligated to provide it anyway. Based upon your writings, a psychiatric evaluation is indicated. Medication management and psychotherapy could be highly beneficial to you. Often times, the people who need treatment do not recogize it themselves, and reject treatment.
You are contemplating changing some major life goals and giving away your vast collection, seemingly on impulse. Making a major change on impulse, when one is struggling with brain chemistry, is usually not a good idea. I'd recommend that you give yourself permission to not make drastic changes, until after a waiting period of at least 90 days.
If the "trap" that you are referring is logistical/financial, then ask for help on this site before giving everything away. At least buy yourself some time.
If the trap that you refer to is emotional/psychological, then seek support from professionals.
Regards,
John
To others:
Please be compassionate with Marty. Do give direct, honest, and caring feedback. A person struggling does not need "Go ahead and jump" messages.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2011 - 01:05am PT
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Juan, thank you for your thoughts. I find it amusing that in society today we point our fingers at people that we find different or confusing. This is why so many people are on prozac drugs as their answer, or giving Ritalin to the kids. I mention that I have Jesus, but so many feel that Jesus is an unacceptable answer. I know that I am totally okay because my heart is huge and warm. How did humans ever make it to the 20th century when these drugs did not exist in the past? Doctors need to go back to healing with faith over filling the medicine cabinet as the answer.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Marty, the cheapest way to send anything is through the U.S. mail. If you take the trouble to box it up yourself, I think you can send equipment to Corsica for less than the thousands that commercial air freighters charge. A moving company that sends things by sea could also do it cheaper than Fed Ex or UPS .
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2011 - 01:09am PT
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In summer 1999 I met Alex Lowe at the trade show. I knew of him and his great accomplishments but never was able to pin him down for a hand shake. Alex and I got into an argument of who was the greatest climber in the world. It was a fun argument but we really got down into depth with it. He would state his case and then I would state mine. We were unable to agree on who we both thought was the greatest climber so we left it as a draw. You see, Alex always believed that the greatest climber in the world was the one that was having the most fun. I of course thought I was having the most fun and he thought the same, but of himself. We shared a drink at the water fountain on the back wall near the Verve booth, shook hands and smiled greatly at each other from the fun. I then asked for one more request which was his signature on this magazine picture. I told him that this picture will look great on my wall as him endorsing the fact that I was the greatest.
A few months later I heard word that he was killed in an avalanche while climbing a peak called Shishapangma in Southern Tibet. I could not believe it. What a tragedy! I always respected the strength that Alex had as he did 400 pull-ups a day while hanging off of ice axes on a pull-up bar. A few years later I met his young kids and mom while playing around on the bouldering wall at the trade show. I know that his kids will grow up knowing that HE was really the greatest!
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