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Fish_Products
Big Wall climber
FishProducts.com
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Mar 22, 2011 - 11:04am PT
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To add to Clints excellent tutorial:
What I do to make sure the trigger bar is level and the wires are the right length is this:
Usually one cable is intact on the cam.
Snip this cable right at the base of the swage on both sides.
Straighten the cable out and then use it as a length guide for the new cable.
Match up the snipped cable with your new cable, then hold a sleeve at the end of the snipped cable, hold it in place along side the new cable, then put another sleeve end to end with this one. Cut the new cable at this length, which is old cable plus the length of two sleeves.
Cut another new cable this same length. Now your trigger bar has no option but to be level and give the correct amount of retraction on the cam.
If your control rods are broken or lost, you can use all sorts of stuff to replace them.
Large paper clip
Spring wire
and my personal fave, the nail portion of a PopRivet. This will have a ball end ready to go into most cams and not pull through the hole. Nice clean fix with none of that bent over wire jazz. Size will depend on the cam, and they come in very many diameters and lengths.
Or you could always send them to us for wires and slings.
See us on the web at:
http://www.FishProducts.com
http://fishproductsblog.blogspot.com/
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pvalchev
Social climber
Mountain View, CA / Calgary, AB
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Mar 22, 2011 - 12:12pm PT
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And a "quick fix" (for camalots) a friend and I used in Squamish on the recommendation of someone there - buy a tennis racket from a consignment store: $3.
Take the string off, cut off a piece and loop it through the trigger and poke the ends through the cam lobes the same way as the metal triggers. Now that's where you'd have to "cap" the metal to prevent it from pulling out. Instead, cut off the excess leaving about 1/4" sticking out, take a lighter and burn the end to form a "ball" of molten plastic. Wait for it to dry, and enjoy your new cams.
My buddy's have lasted years like this and it seems to be plenty strong.
The string we used was almost the perfect diameter, nearly maximum for the hole on the cam lobe, but I doubt it matters a whole lot.
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aliebling
climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2011 - 05:59pm PT
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Del cross: I sent you a private message vis supertopo. If you didn't get that, you can also reach me at myusername @gmail.com. I promise the cams will get so
E loving attention and thence used!
Clint: likewise a pm sent. I really appreciate your kind offer. Let me know what works best for you to meet up. We're headed back to jtree in 3 weeks and would lov to have them fixed up for that.
All: To replace the slings myself, is there a recommended sling width/material? I read something on the BD site warning against too narrow/dyneema/etc...
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Impaler
Gym climber
Vancouver
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Mar 22, 2011 - 06:27pm PT
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Another option is to take the cams to Seth at Marmot mountain work in Berkeley for trigger wire replacement. $5 for a cam or something like that. Of course, if you have a lot of them that need replacement - DIY is the way to go.
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aliebling
climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2011 - 01:03pm PT
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Clint: pinging you about repairing trigger wires again. We're off to JTree again in two weeks and I've love to have at least the number 3 fixed up before we go.
If that doesn't work out, can anyone give me an idea of the turnaround time for marmot in Berkeley in case I need to have them do just the one?
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Cuckawalla
Trad climber
Grand Junction, CO
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Mar 27, 2011 - 01:19pm PT
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Also Weed-Wacker cable works super good. You just push the cable through and burn it to mushroom as a stop. Cheap, tough, light.
-Jesse
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slobmonster
Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
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Mar 27, 2011 - 02:06pm PT
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Hi all. I can do most cam trigger repairs in relatively quick turnaround. During the week I'm @ Marmot, in Berkeley, and do cam repairs during off hours: $7.50 for one trigger wire, $14 for both; it's not through any business so please bring me cash. Feel free to PM me, too.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Mar 27, 2011 - 05:34pm PT
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aliebling:
I have sent email directed to your gmail address and via the supertopo email, but I haven't received any replies.
So I suspect one or both of our spam filters are blocking emails.
My home phone number is on my web page, and in the phone book.
Too bad, yesterday would have been good. I have to go into work now.
Next weekend, I plan to be in the Valley....
Maybe the distance from my house to yours is too far to make meeting convenient enough.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 30, 2011 - 01:21pm PT
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BUMP for timeliness
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Aug 30, 2011 - 02:10pm PT
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Aliebling,
I highly recommend hanging with Clint and learning how to do this.
I had a lot of fun!
On a side note after Clint's Cam School, I have replaced more on my own successfully, with the exception of small alien trigger wires - too small for my fumbling fingers...
kev
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franzr
Trad climber
Lancaster, CA
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Aug 30, 2011 - 03:14pm PT
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For the last several years I prefer to use weed wacker cord. Extremely durable, cheap, and easy to install. Very similar to the tennis racket cordage tip mentioned above--not sure which one is better.
--Ryan
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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Aug 30, 2011 - 05:07pm PT
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Mucci
You have to match up parts and tools correctly.
Nicopress 17-3 = 1/32"
Match wire, sleeve, and tool
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Aug 30, 2011 - 06:32pm PT
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I was just trying to make a point Tucker but thanks for clarifying for the thread.
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slobmonster
Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
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Aug 30, 2011 - 08:09pm PT
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Yeah, I get it. It's not pocket change. But if you want to do the repairs for yourself, all the info you need is outlined above.
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Land of God-less fools
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Aug 31, 2011 - 12:41pm PT
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No, it is pocket change.
You probably spend most of an hour on a cam including communication & shipping, right?
Robbery- sheesh.
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Aug 31, 2011 - 01:24pm PT
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saltw#ter
LOL
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Land of God-less fools
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I ordered a kit several days ago, & the payment seemed to go through.
Temporary website glich?
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slobmonster
Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
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Well, for those among you in the Bay Area without the inclination or tools, I'll fix those pesky trigger wires for you. Let's say $10 per cam (i.e. both wires if needed) for Supertopo people...
I can do these in my spare time, and you can drop them off @ Marmot Mtn Works in Berkeley. Ask for Seth.
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