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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 17, 2011 - 02:00am PT
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That's the stuff. How can you not get happy looking at those? Even the 'riskier' ones.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2011 - 02:17am PT
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More Keith
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Banquo
Trad climber
Morgan Hill, CA (Mo' Hill)
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Jan 17, 2011 - 11:18am PT
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I snapped these a couple weeks ago
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 17, 2011 - 12:29pm PT
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Keep that crap in the urban environment, however you feel about it. Personally think its bullshit defacement of property if not approved or sanctioned somehow as 'art' by the owners of the potential canvas. Most of it is self-promotional territorial gibberish anyway that means nothing to anyone except the 'artist' (reads: loser with art ability) who tagged it up.
That said, I will beat silly the MFer that spray painted 'BRO' on the boulder above snowshed in bright red retard font. Not that it would have changed anything, but it is as far from artistic as possible, no talent or technique even.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 17, 2011 - 12:37pm PT
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I've seen it, that 'Bro' does not abide!
Back to buildings, where do you make the distinction between Graffiti and Murals?
What about the surfer dude by cave rock?
Another one, totally hypothetical: What would you call it if a climber wrote a girl's name using a block of chalk as a brush high on El Cap, say on the heart side, visible from the ground? Would the Park Service be within it's rights to make the artist do a new route to go up there and clean it off, assuming it didn't rain first?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Jan 17, 2011 - 09:29pm PT
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Jaybro, Dudefriend, who was it that said, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder?"
Applies to more than art.....:D
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Jan 17, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
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Not modern & not art but graffiti nonetheless...scanned slide taken in the mid-1980s. Bouldering on Bishop Tuff near Deadman's Summit. This post is not intended to provoke or offend anyone.
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426
climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Jan 18, 2011 - 09:29am PT
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ah, the Art of Getting Over.
Some just will never "get it".
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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Jan 18, 2011 - 10:20am PT
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Is this art?
Took me 2 hours and a lot of scrubing, water and graffiti remover to get this result;
These were taken during an NPS/AAC/SCMA work detail to remove graffiti at the Patagonia Pile formation, JTNP two days ago.
Someone might call this graffiti art too.
I feel those "artist" should suffer for their "art".
I'm just saying.....
TY
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Jan 18, 2011 - 10:29am PT
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good thread
the larry.
took these
pix in montreal
a couple
years ago:
love and respect.
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PhotogEC
climber
In front of my computer
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Jan 18, 2011 - 11:55am PT
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Took me 2 hours and a lot of scrubing, water and graffiti remover to get this result;
THANK YOU
I feel those "artist" should suffer for their "art".
I'm just saying.....
TY
I'd agree with that.
--Eric
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2011 - 01:31pm PT
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Thanks for posting up D-know
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Jan 18, 2011 - 01:41pm PT
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but I really respect the work of guys like Banksey. His film "Exit Through The Gift Shop" ( cited previously in this thread ) is genius.
When it showed at Sundance here, there was a rumor he was around. Some sign of it maybe...
http://www.banksyfilm.com/
Bummer, but, someone painted over the skiing gorilla. Probably the owner of the site that got tagged. There were a number of possibly Banksy pieces seen especially in Park City, but, my bet is not that many folks saw the one on the way up Little Cottonwood (Alta, Snowbird access road).
If you climb in LCC, you can kinda still see it through the paint that covers it up. Just left below the Church Buttress on a structure (private land).
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jan 18, 2011 - 04:36pm PT
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different stuff here getting lumped into "graffiti". graffiti, by definition, involves writing.
the recent petroglyph thread i started touched on some of this. before alphabets, we had sign languages. symbols meant something, whether mythic expression or directions to good hunting grounds. then things changed and changed and changed. "illegal" graffiti is a relatively recent phenomenon, the product of marginalization of minorities and urban migration. nobody talked about "kilroy was here" being illegal or blightful.
on this thread we see street art, some obviously done by professionals with legal approval, since it would take too long to do surreptitiously. we also see some highly evolved, visually dynamic graphic art. frank gehry, who dashed off some squiggles as the basis for his design of the disney concert hall, would be jealous.
art is something which gets judged many times. like history, our appreciation of it is continually revised. beauty and danger often go together, as hopkins put it,
"... the fire that breaks from thee then, a billion
times told lovelier, more dangerous ..."
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 18, 2011 - 04:48pm PT
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I'm reading a book by David Craig, called "Landmarks". He's something of a climber and writer, and the book is about the interface between humanity and rock. In particular, humans who live on, in or near rock, and how humans modify rock for their purposes. Including quite a lot about petroglyphs and such. Interesting stuff.
Before:
After:
The result of several hours of hard work, scrubbing with solvent and water, rinsing, and repeating. I've spent some days at Squamish over the last few years, removing graffiti.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2011 - 09:16pm PT
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Jan 19, 2011 - 01:18am PT
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Couple from Europe...
Anyone translate Italian?
Cheers!
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