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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:00am PT
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Maybe so, Jude. I'm just a bigoted old-schooler. That's how I roll.
I don't hate homos. I think this is the last time I'll restate that. I just disagree with the lifestyle. I like man/woman action. Maybe I'm the perv, who knows??? I'm a pussy-hound.
Anyway, understand I don't hate homos, I'm just old-school trad family-values.
Funny too, I bet a lot here agree with me but are too shy to voice their opinions. Fear or getting labeled the 'B' word!!!! Ahhhhh.
Pussies. Whatever. You're a cool cat, Jude. Hang tight.
EDIT:
So, if I understand what you're saying, you would accept a gay couple adopting and raising a child if it happened twenty-some years from now and if one half of that couple was your son, but if it's my son, right now, you won't accept it.
Do you see a contradiction here Steve?
I think you fail to see the relevance of a traditional familiy having a child. It is to prolong the FAMILY, not some other sperm or, whatver. Cragman dwells in saving lost kids but that is different. Kindoff. He rescues unwanted kids.
You miss my point, I think. I would encourage my son to have his OWN SON, to at least use his own 'juices' to produce a child. Which is why Homosexuality is totally wrong to begin with. It ain't right!!!
It takes a man f*#king a woman. Unless youwant to get all micro-biotic.
See where I'm going??? It aint right, dude!
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:00am PT
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There must be one, and only one penis.
Otherwise, it is not a marriage.
Unless you live in Massachusetts,or Iowa, or.........
then it is ok
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:07am PT
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So Blue, do you believe that "homos", "queers", or "fags" are born that way or are they made that way somehow?
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factortwo
Social climber
Placerville, ca
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:08am PT
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Boy are you people missing the point.
He is way to old to be a father.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:08am PT
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See my post above....apologists.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:09am PT
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Slayton, what is the difference to 'born' and 'made' that way?
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:16am PT
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Is someone born as a homosexual or do they become that way for some reason?
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:19am PT
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joxy said he had to work at it...now it's just natural for im...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:27am PT
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Is someone born as a homosexual or do they become that way for some reason?
Very good question. Honestly I don't know the answer...
But I do know what is best for a child. A natural childbirth soawn from two parents and raised by them both. There is a natural connection there. Especislly with Mom. But the child understands Dad though the womb. They recognize the parents. They connect with them.
The whole gay-kids thing is weird to me. It ain't right. There's something about natural birth and having a Mom and Dad that is unexplaianable to some, apparently.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:29am PT
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wrong bluey,
kids don't need to see a man and a woman sleeping in the same bed to understand what a family is, they need to see adults interact; love, struggle, support, encourage, teach, entertain, please, anger, humor, miff, and even forgive one another.
kids learn how to interact in a family by example, but they don't learn who to be sexually attracted to by example, that much is obvious.
that you fail to notice how identical your "arguments" are to those offered against inter-racial marriage is pretty funny, IMO. (true, men and women from different races can reproduce, but that was also "wrong" at one time...)
there are plenty of people on earth who probably have no business at all being parents, but i doubt many gay couples belong near the top of that list, considering how poorly so many hetero parents treat their kids, right? i mean, 6 billion people on earth = quite a few f*#ked up families out there...
as far as people who so oppose gay rights, some are simply ignorant (have you ever actually known a gay person? a gay couple? a gay parent?), and others, MANY MANY others, are simply repressing their own feelings of attraction for the same sex, and they hate themselves for those feelings, so in turn they project the hate they feel toward themselves, outward, toward others...
(edit, but of course, this sort of thing never happens among the devout followers of Jesus, because gay people and religious people are NEVER the same people, right?)
not tht we expect to see you fess up on ST, that would just be over the top.
still, it seems clear enough, it's either A or B, or possibly both A & B.
(i know where i have my money =)
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:33am PT
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Jude, I actually don't reallt care. It's the publicising that this is NORMAL that bugs me. It aint, because I'm obviously a bigot against fags.
Actually, you do care and yes you do not like fags. You've made it abundantly clear.
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:35am PT
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fags are cool..they're even better than regular folk..all special and stuff...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:37am PT
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kids don't need to see a man and a woman sleeping in the same bed to understand what a family is, they need to see adults interact; love, struggle, support, encourage, entertain, please, anger, miff, and even forgive one another.
kids learn how to interact in a family by example, but they don't learn who to be sexually attracted to by example, that much is obvious.
Missing the point...If I'm attracted to the family dog by 'emotion' and 'affection', it's o.k. to have love????
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marv
Mountain climber
Bay Area
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:44am PT
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no skin off my nose. If you want to be gay or mormon (or both), knock yourself out.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:44am PT
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that you fail to notice how identical your "arguments" are to those offered against inter-racial marriage is pretty funny, IMO. (true, men and women from different races can reproduce, but that was also "wrong" at one time...)
there are plenty of people on earth who probably have no business at all **being parents, but i doubt many gay couples belong near the top of that list, considering how poorly so many hetero parents treat their kids, right? i mean, 6 billion people on earth = quite a few f*#ked up families out there...**
Stupid argument. Gays make good parents too? Do pedophiles? Ask the kids?
as far as people who so oppose gay rights, some are simply ignorant (have you ever actually known a gay person? a gay couple? a gay parent?), and others, MANY MANY others, are simply repressing their own feelings of attraction for the same sex, and they hate themselves for those feelings, so in turn they project the hate they feel toward themselves, outward, toward others...(edit, but of course, this sort of thing never happens among the devout followers of Jesus, because gay people and religious people are NEVER the same people, right?) Are you really serious??? Are you wiling to equally criticize other faiths so vehementonaly??? Muslims who hang fags? Saudis who chop limbs?? Now it's about Christian intolerance??? Are you f*#king for real>?
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:48am PT
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now you are into the dog, but yet you heckle muslims and fags?
"Are you really serious???"
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 12:50am PT
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I'm curious, Matt, do you really think I HATE fags? Do you think I hate Muslims?
Honestly...
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