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Nate D
climber
San Francisco
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Dec 21, 2010 - 05:26pm PT
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Warbler,
But if the approach is so long and arduous, and nobody ever goes there, and say the route hasn't seen a second ascent in 30 years, AND a number of "classic climbers" need to agree it's classic, then it can't be a classic?
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Dec 21, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
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For all us "old" guys... this is what passes for "classic" today...
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Dec 21, 2010 - 07:05pm PT
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"It CAN (could) be a classic, until more classic climbers judge otherwise."
How do I know if I'm classic enough of a climber to judge whether or not a climb is a classic?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 21, 2010 - 07:15pm PT
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How do I know if I'm classic enough of a climber to judge whether or not a climb is a classic?
Only if several other classic climbers all reach a consensus that you are a classic climber can you think of yourself that way. They will judge whether you present a compelling line from bottom to top, whether you have historical relevance, and whether you are any good on rock.
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martygarrison
Trad climber
Washington DC
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Dec 21, 2010 - 08:50pm PT
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Steck Salathe
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NigelSSI
Trad climber
BC
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Dec 21, 2010 - 10:26pm PT
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Yay for drills!
There'd be a couple 'classics' here if it weren't for bolted cracks.
Racing to finish pitches up on my conglomerate home turf before the bosch gets to them is good inspiration. Tick, tick, tick. <3 choss.
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gonamok
climber
aging malcontent
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Dec 21, 2010 - 10:56pm PT
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If it looks really good, climbs really good and puts you into really good situations....and stands the test of time, it may be a classic.
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gonamok
climber
aging malcontent
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Dec 21, 2010 - 10:58pm PT
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Hmmm but then you have your classic choss pile, classic death route and classic loose & rotten alpine face, so who knows.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 21, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
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Mortal man can not make classic ......
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 21, 2010 - 11:45pm PT
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Ah, how to define classic climber. Anywhere from Tucker Tech to Tobin Sorenson, Jim Bridwell to Pat Ament, Dean Potter to Randy Leavitt, and on and on.
So, Kevin, you get out of California often?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 22, 2010 - 12:35am PT
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A classic climber on a climb sure to become a classic!
bob Scarpelli on life without parole
...ah the almost irony....
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Dec 22, 2010 - 04:13am PT
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I sure thought that LWOP was a "classic"--albeit, a sick-twist one:-)
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
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Dec 22, 2010 - 06:35am PT
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When it's in a book hahahehaheahehaehhea
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Aya K
Trad climber
New York
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Dec 22, 2010 - 09:24am PT
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I agree... some feature that your eyes just get drawn to, where the climbing is fun and worth it, and when you get to the top you just go "That was so classic!"
!!!!!
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Dec 22, 2010 - 09:33am PT
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sport climb classic - gorgeous O.R.G! Trad Classic- Clyde Minaret just a couple of local routes I love
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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Dec 22, 2010 - 10:18am PT
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It depneds on the climbing venue. A classic climb at Ralph Stover State Park in eastern PA [i.e. Tango] would be a non-climb in the Gunks.
So what makes a classic? The relative route quality as compared to the climbs that surround it. Tango is surrounded by vegetated choss held together with mud, but it's a classic. While Tango actually climbs semi-rock and vegetation, missing most of the mud. The bottom of the 3rd/4th class approach to Lurking Fear would be a classic at Ralph Stover.
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Dec 22, 2010 - 10:43am PT
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gunkie why are you not in jersey getting barreled!? :)
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Dec 22, 2010 - 10:52am PT
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Wbraun, a mortal soloing with an oversized boombox is classic.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Dec 22, 2010 - 11:00am PT
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As I think was mentioned before, to me a "classic" is a natural beautiful line that catches your eye when it comes into view, and then it lives up to or surpasses your expectations when you get on it. IMHO the less bolts the better. The Naked Edge comes to mind.
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Flanders!
Trad climber
June Lake, CA
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Dec 22, 2010 - 11:11am PT
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A "classic line" is somewhat akin to that woman that catches your eye.
Yah, big boobs, a nice butt, good looking legs.....all good from the male
side of life, but she still might not be a keeper.
It's more the total package that counts. And the routes that tend to be
classic encompass a variety of factors: history,style, position,
quality of rock and variety of techniques required.
Route like Stoner's, Reg. on Higher Catherdral Rock, Plasic Exploding,
and best of all time; Silk Road at Calaveras Dome.
Doug
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