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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Mar 24, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
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Seeking the source for the romantic interest in mountain climbing as an act of pleasure, really leads to JJ Rousseau.
Also... you really have to hand it to Steve Grossman for creating some of the most interesting threads on this website!
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Mar 24, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Mar 24, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
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Cintune, where did you get that image?
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Mar 24, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
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Made it a long time ago, finally found a place to use it. I think the guy with the rope came from an early subscription card from Alpinist, or maybe a membership card from the AAC, or somewhere. The painting is Wanderer in a Sea of Cloud, by Caspar David Friedrich, it was actually painted 25 years before Nietzsche was born.
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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Mar 24, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
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Awesome! Grossman comes through with the content again.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 26, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
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Nietzsche Haus at Sils Maria
[Click to View YouTube Video]
"Philosophy:
Living voluntarily among ice and high mountains
seeking out anything strange and questionable in existence
everything so far placed under a ban by morality
The ice is near, the solitude tremendous
but how serenely all things lie in the light,
how freely one breaths,
how much one feels lies beneath oneself"
The Nietzsche News Center: http://www.nietzsche-news.org/index.php?page=/nnc/home
Donini
Yes, it's dense... "dichtung" in German... making dense. I find dichtung admirable and usually I prefer it to the twitterung and facelooking of today. No anger involved though ... it is as it is. And after all I'm primarily a sport climber... Lol...
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 26, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
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Dense.......climbing then was so philosophical....now it's mostly physical.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 26, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
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Jim, when are you going to come clean about your Faustian bargain?
If it would compromise you in any way then never mind.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 26, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
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Hell fire is waiting....would rather be with my friends anyway.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Mar 26, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
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Yeah, what ever happened to the philosopher climber? I remember them in the 60s and early 70s and then it seems climbing began to focus so much on athleticism and a more competitive sense of achievment... though, not to be philosophical, that may just be my subjective experience.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Mar 27, 2013 - 12:12am PT
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Will To Power is an interesting set of words. I'm going to morf it into Will To Action for my own needs. Sometimes we need to activate our will in consistent doses to kickstart action. That can evolve into a sense of power but that goes with the territory.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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"Freedom and Individualism On The Rocks" by Dane Scott in "Climbing Philosophy For Everyone" on Wiley Blackwell (Editor: Fritz Allhoff)
the examples used: "The Bachar-Yerian" (Bachar and Yerian), "To Bolt Or Not To Be" (Alan Watts, J-B Tribout) and "The Path" (Sonnie Trotter)
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Aug 22, 2014 - 11:44am PT
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Unpacking some books I haven't seen in 10 years and good old Alan Watts popped up.
Kind of relevant to climbing or maybe something bigger.
All your five senses are differing forms of one basic sense—something like touch. Seeing is highly sensitive touching. The eyes touch, or feel, light waves and so enable us to touch things out of reach of our hands.
Similarly, the ears touch sound waves in the air, and the nose tiny particles of dust and gas. But the complex patterns and chains of neurons which constitute these senses are composed of neuron units which are capable of changing between just two states: on or off.
To the central brain the individual neuron signals either yes or no — that’s all. But, as we know from computers which employ binary arithmetic in which the only figures are 0 and 1, these simple elements can be formed into the most complex and marvelous patterns.
In this respect our nervous system and 0/1 computers are much like everything else, for the physical world is basically vibration. Whether we think of this vibration in terms of waves or of particles, or perhaps wavicles, we never find the crest of a wave without a trough or a particle without an interval, or space, between itself and others.
In other words, there is no such thing as a half wave, or a particle all by itself without any space around it. There is no on without off, no up without down.
http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2014/01/27/alan-watts-taboo/
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Aug 22, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
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The philosopher king
“The problem now is how to lose me..” (Nietzsche, Turin, 4th January 1889)
Here your peregrination ends. No more borders
to cross; no more mountains to scale. The night train
steams through the sleeping Alps, rattling you home.
You chant the Gondola Song; slump under drugs.
In the house of the mad you ramble in French,
eat like a Titan, smash windows, scrawl in the dust.
Every deep spirit wears a mask –
but now the actor’s dead, the mask of insanity
is stuck in your face, a permanent grimace.
Soon your sister will crown you philosopher king,
dress you in white, comb your walrus moustache,
place you in a high chair, powder your skin.
Each morning from the high veranda
you gaze towards Buchenwald and the swastika sun.
The steel light chisels the distant pines.
Your posthumous life has already begun.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Aug 22, 2014 - 05:00pm PT
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Wow, awesome bit of film...
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Aug 22, 2014 - 11:13pm PT
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Noyce needed an editor...
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Aug 23, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
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^^^ Don't we all.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Aug 23, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
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Extraordinary piece of film---had no idea Nietzsche had ever been captured on film.
Hideous soundtrack on that version however, with absolutely no evocative connection whatsoever with the great German philosopher.
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Aug 23, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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I thought the evocative connection was more in line with the images of the poor syphilitic shell of the great German philosopher. Remarkable that Elspeth allowed anyone to film that, for sure.
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