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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Clint -
What is the difference between the Grey and the Yellow?
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Scott Cole
Trad climber
Sunny California
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Jun 10, 2010 - 04:13pm PT
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I'm still runnin the Clog Expeditions (stamped 1982). Many thousand of feet on wet dry and icy ropes, and I'm still alive. Finally changed the slings after 25 years, so they are good as new.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Jun 10, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
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Petzl
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
CA
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Jun 10, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
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Still waiting the Rock Thompson ascender of perfection....
If you can find an old pair of clog ascenders they are kindest to the hands.
if you are talking about her jugging a long, long way you might consider a caving 3 point set up instead of the traditional climbers 2. takes longer to get into, but, way faster to jug 300 feet with that setup.
Edit: and more gear trivia, Jumars were designed and manufactured by Walter Marti in der Schweitz. There were two versions, regular, and with carbide inserts to resist the wear of dirty rope in caves.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Jun 10, 2010 - 04:48pm PT
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CMI's, strongest out there and no funky gimmiks. I had a pair of yellow jumars, but sold them to a friend. I'm sure I never would have broken them, but when the option is a much stronger piece of gear with no downside, that's what I'll opt for.
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Juan Maderita
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 12, 2010 - 01:30am PT
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Caution about older Clog ascenders:
Inspect your old Clog Ascenders for defective pins!
There was a design defect of the main axle pin. The pin serves to hold the cam to the frame of the ascender. Check to see what type of pin your ascenders have. You may have the bad pins, which apparently relied on a press fit (tension fit) to retain position. The tension fit would fail, and the pin would creep outward. It looks to me that complete failure would occur after the pin "walks" out of the hole by only 3 mm.
The new style pin is like a rivet which has been bucked on the tail end (expanded to a significantly larger diameter than the hole).
I discovered the flaw while jugging 1,000' above Cañón del Tajo. After every three or four steps, I had to tap the pin back into place, using a carabiner. By the time the new route was completed, both ascenders suffered the same failure. REI exchanged them for a new pair with the corrected pins. So, Clog must have changed pin types sometime before the year 2000.
See Thorgon's photo (above) for the faulty pin style.
Below is a picture of my replacement Clogs with the corrected, pin style.
Btw, I like the comfort and design, and have confidence in them.
This same defect was experienced by "Mimi":
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=824216&msg=824410#msg824410
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Thorgon
Big Wall climber
Sedr Woolley, WA
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Jun 12, 2010 - 11:02am PT
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Thanks for the heads up JM; certainly will address the issue!
Climb strong,
Thor
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