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micronut
Trad climber
fresno, ca
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May 25, 2010 - 07:46pm PT
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High Fructose,
This one's gonna be great too.
Since you seem to be into silly movies, watch 'em both in one night! A real double header.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2010 - 07:57pm PT
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Hey, Caughtinside, taking a stand in any public discourse no matter how small-- in order to defend what you believe or in order to defend the decisions you’ve made regarding your practice of living-- is a noble pursuit. And that’s just the way it is.
EDIT Pate's a bulldog. When called for. Like T.H. Huxley. I thank Hypercrates (the deification of Fate) everyday that we at the Taco have him. To put the crackpots in their place. To discredit the deceit, the hypocrisies, the religulousness.
EDIT Micronut and Blue, the tagteam Christians, this thread is not about your religion or Bill Maher's movie. Perhaps re-read. It is about the new word religulous and your religion's religulous elements. Remember, I'm for evolution: the evolution of belief, the evolution of the "practice" of living. Which means keeping the good that religions have to offer but leaving behind their absurdities.
I bet as the days and weeks unfold, we're sure to see more religulous goings-on the world.
Bill Maher's the best.
EDIT 5:31p Can't disagree with that!
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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May 25, 2010 - 08:30pm PT
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Well then the taco is just loaded with noble f*#king idiots then isn't it?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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May 25, 2010 - 08:35pm PT
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I bet as the days and weeks unfold, we're sure to see more religulous goings-on the world.
Not only are you deluded, but you just might be an idiot!
Based on a silly-stupid Maher movie???? Fool....
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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May 25, 2010 - 08:53pm PT
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I own the movie.
It is only worth watching to see Bill M. condemn himself. It is full of hate and cherry-picked hypocrites of faith. At some point in the movie Bill makes the remark it isn't going to be good for him on Judgement Day, or he alludes to this. It's the only thing he got right.
Although, he does point out the hypocracy within religion. That is worthy to know. But don't be fooled. If Bill M. can see it, don't you think the Big Guy upstairs sees it also? Of course he does. And that is why Jesus addressed the danger of hypocracy constantly. But Bill M. never talks about that.
The other reason to watch it is because he does go to these Holy places spoken of in religious texts, the actual places and shows you what it looks like today. So turn the audio off, and watch the visuals and all the historical sites he visits. That is worth watching.
Bill M., you should listen to your mother and those who have faith. But some may be too far gone to turn around. Some have a conscience that is seared. Bill M., maybe one of those. There is always hoping though that one day he will turn around.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2010 - 09:25pm PT
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Well, said, Bulldog. Yours esp-
"In this day and age I really don't believe in pussyfooting around the issues. On the Internet the little man has a chance to be heard. I post my words coming from an educated stance. Unlike many here at ST I'm not just belching half baked personal ideals into words. I engage the right people in serious discourse. However crackpots get the whip... Climbers are supposed to be a tough crowd..."
But I gotta ask, did you twist Klimmer's arm and force him to post to this thread? Are you blackmailing him? Is anybody? After all those accusations of Haters! and Tormentors! and Bullies! --you know-- I'd just like to be clear, was his coming over here involuntary in any way?
EDIT 6:30p Wes, I hear ya. About the drivel, you just have to pass over it. Reminded of Twain right now, I am: "it's not what they don't know, it's what they know for sure that just ain't so."
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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May 25, 2010 - 09:29pm PT
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You guys put Bill M. on some kind of pedestal like he speaks the rightoeus truth. It's funny actually, as you dismiss all religion and spirituality, yet promote the crap spewed by Bill.
God help ya...
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WBraun
climber
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May 25, 2010 - 09:37pm PT
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I post my words coming from an educated stance. says big overblown deluded pate along with his side kick leg humping pussy ass corn nut who couldn't think his way out of a paper bag without humping some ones leg along with it.
If the pussy ass corn nut actually revealed his real identity I'd have some resemblance of respect. Instead we only get an anonymous leg humping parroting idiot hanging on others coat tails.
This sh'it isn't about religion or God or any of that except to show yourselves as how well you can manipulate and juggle words around.
Those words have no real power and no soul.
Just pure egotistical bullshit as evident in all your useless defenses about why you post here in these stupid threads.
What an ugly useless and disgusting tools you are ......
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
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Brawny- You're still upset. From BITD. Get off my grass...
Pate, I really liked his exchange with Dr. Jack Kevorkian from last month on Real Time, 23apr, don't know if you watched it.
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WBraun
climber
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May 25, 2010 - 09:49pm PT
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And I was right all along both you and Pate are weak.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland
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May 25, 2010 - 09:55pm PT
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So Pate is HFCS just another avatar of yours?
The writing styles are very similar and the constant ball cupping
you two do back and forth is gayer that a bouquet of penis's.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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May 25, 2010 - 10:16pm PT
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"He was a JEW Klimmer. Not one of yours."
Just a personal history note according to Mr. Maher, himself, Pate. Maher was raised in his Irish father’s Catholic faith,…he says he wasn’t aware his mother was Jewish until his teenage years.
According to his interview with Larry King, Maher's family stopped attending church when he was in his early teens, reportedly because of Maher's father's disagreement with birth control dogma.
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EvolveOrExtinct
Social climber
SinCity
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May 25, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
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Modern religions suck ass as a whole. They had a time and a place. They are more than likely the result of evolved social behaviors that resulted in formations of early communities but they have become passe. As we have learned how to sanitize, fully cook pork and avoid cross-contamination between certain types of foods the customs and restriction especially have become arcane.
The biggest thing that sticks in my craw is that every major religion has the golden rule as its central tenant but then basic respect for people and compassion are quickly lost as adherents cling to and espouse the more dogmatic commandments that fit to some insecurity or latent self-loathing that they wish to exorcise from self by imposing on others.
Werner, of all the people on here I find it funny you espousing religion as you I disdain because you have been hostile to me more than once for nothing in other forums where your opinion was completely unsolicited and unwarranted.
Pate and HFCS could very well be one but who cares, both do tend to keep attacks pertinent and most often humorous... though sometimes harsh.
Hypocrisy is the biggest problem with religions and morals imposing people. And it is ironic that the party of small government and free enterprise is also the one that takes religion to its core and tries to impose those moral standards on everyone.
I think we should all color pictures of Mohammed on a postcard and mail it to that jolly old guy up in the sky sitting on a cloud and dispatching his angels down to do miracles in the form of plain old everyday events that fit into the rules of biology and physics that people have to think they can bring to themselves through prayer as to not seem so helpless.
Religulous!! Rock on!!
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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May 25, 2010 - 10:59pm PT
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Wes!
Thanks for posting the link to "Religulus!
I just wanted to point out a very significant error on Mr. Maher's part by him stating that Miggido is the "very spot that God is going to come down and END the world and rescue His believers." is not true.
No where in the Bible does it say this, and no Christians/Pastors believe or preach this.
Miggido is where the armies of the world will congregate, outside of Jerusalem, before they wage their attack against it. God will intervene and destroy them on that spot. Otherwise THEY would have destroyed the world with nuclear warfare.
Jesus will return with His believers at that time and set up His 1,000 year Kingdom here on earth.
There will be many people still here on the earth at that time...at least a billion or two.
So, right off the bat he(Bill Maher)gets it wrong...
Back to the movie.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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May 25, 2010 - 11:09pm PT
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"He was a JEW Klimmer. Not one of yours."
Just a personal history note according to Mr. Maher, himself, Pate. Maher was raised in his Irish father’s Catholic faith,…he says he wasn’t aware his mother was Jewish until his teenage years.
According to his interview with Larry King, Maher's family stopped attending church when he was in his early teens, reportedly because of Maher's father's disagreement with birth control dogma.
Yep, what Jennie said. I forgot that. Haven't watched the film in a while. He explains that clearly though in the moviie, I just didn't remember.
Bill M. makes some good points, but then the Anti-Christ in him comes raging out full blast and that is where he truly looses it, and he turns to full on scary hate. With that kind of seathing hate it would be easy to see someone pick up a gun and start eliminating everyone they don't agree with starting with those who put their trust in Jesus, and all other peoples of faith and religions there after.
Atheism is a religion. It is the faith of NO GOD(S).
I say, "prove it." You can't.
We say there is GOD.
And you say, "prove it." At this moment we do have evidence, but then you just say it is all just random chance and it doesn't mean anything. I and many others disagree. The evidence that GOD exists is overwhelming and getting more complete everyday.
There is nothing you can point to and say, "See I told you . . . NO GOD." But there is much that we can point to and say, "See, GOD."
Sometimes I recognize that same hate toward those of faith here on ST and it truly is not pleasant. Scary even. I would check your hearts and see where you are truly at.
Some here at ST are becoming what they hate right before their very own eyes.
I'm a Christian, but I will communicate and talk to anyone of any faith, or no faith, agnostic or even atheists and listen to what they have to say. I'm actually interested in what they have to say. I may respectfully disagree in the end, but I'm not going to throw hate at them and disrespect. I would rather leave knowing we can talk another day, seperate without hurt feelings, perhaps climb together in the very near future, or even sit down and have a meal together and relate and talk like fellow human beings.
Some here on ST I don't think I would care to ever want to meet due to the severe mistreatment here at ST that I've experienced and what I have witnessed others have had to go through. Not pretty at all.
Don't be Bigots. You better look deep inside your heart and eradicate it before it is too late.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2010 - 11:11pm PT
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EOE- you have earned a warm and honorable place at the fire. Thank you. And what you said about the irony and schizophrenia (for lack of a better term) of the Repubs was spot on.
Wes- Excellent USAGE examples. Welcome back, too. YOUR links, by the way, are always pertinent when not hilarious.
Another useful term: "religulous reasoning" (to see it in context, see Klimmer's post)
EDIT 8:21p EOE- ROFLMAO!
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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May 25, 2010 - 11:21pm PT
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Wes!
Once again, i was just pointing out that Mr. Maher stated that "The book of Revelation says that God will come down and destroy/end the world"
I here people like Bill etc. saying this all the time, obviously they haven't read what they are quoting.
Wes- "So glad those ancients were able to predict..."
Regarding the Prophets, they also prophesied that China would amass an army of 200 million long before there were even one hundred million people in the whole world...
In the mid 60's Mao said that China had the capability of forming an army of 200 million!
They(and Jesus)also prophesied that Israel would be scattered and persecuted and return to the promised land after so many generations...etc.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 25, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
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Come on...the Bible is a bunch of mindless blabber. Sure there are good things in it but there are also numerous passages condoning murder and slavery. You can find anything you want in the Bible good, bad and indifferent. It is an antiquated, unevenly written monstrosity.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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May 25, 2010 - 11:38pm PT
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EorE, who are you really?
You must be HFCS or Pate I'm guessing, since you only have two posts.
C'mon guys. That is cheating!
Be who you are (bigots!) and stop making up more avatars. Unbelievable.
Donini,
How the heck do you relate to anyone down in SA, with all the Catholicism surrounding you there?
Or how do you relate to anyone of faith in any country you climb in?
Let me guess, you never bring up politics or religion when out of the US, right? And if anyone does, quickly change the subject. Right?
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