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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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It's my pleasure, I am happy to do it. It benefits us all.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Understood. I guess I'm just a little sensitive since I'm the one who has to deal with all of this.
My sincere apologies to the OP and everyone else if I've been an ass regarding this thread.
I just want to make sure we can keep the pit open and available so folks have options for camping and hanging for the season that don't involve pissing the Park service off.
Again, sorry if I was an as#@&%e. Not my intentions.
Maybe I need to go back to being a "silent" voice of the community.
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Yes, thanks Robert. I deleted my post because I realized it was not my place to make any calls or announcements on this. Glad you spoke up here.
Erik
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hoipolloi
climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
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I find this unsetteling, as I don't own a van or a gun. So when I have slept at the pit, it was on the ground without a sidearm. I sort of cringe to think what might have happened to someone in that situation had people like that rolled in, could have been really ugly, no?
One of these things might have to change... it probably won't be the gun... although for people like that.......
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there scott.. oh my, dont know you here, i dont think.. but surely am glad you were okay and set out here to warn others...
say, rlf, very glad you offered to take a report on all this...
good job, but as you said, sounds like a hard chore at times, with
so much to do..
sure hope this helps someone, in some way...
thanks for sharing, scott...
:)
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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I once pointed a 9mm at a mans head and told them to get the f*#k lost.
I have no doubt if his attempted murder of me and rape of my girlfriend continued he would be dead now.
Probally would have saved others.
Juan
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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The truth about the pit is the surrounding 'hood' is pretty ghetto. All in all, we have only had a few problems there with the scumbags.
People just need to be careful when camping. Don't leave tents and gear behind while you're out for the day, pack everything up and take it with you. There really isn't much I can do about it unfortunately. We really don't want the sheriff down there nosing around since you technically can't camp in a residential area.
I'll be sure to make more drive by's and keep an eye on things as much as possible.
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Richard
climber
Bend, OR.
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Hi Robert
......as a side note to this. Apperantly there is a website about the pit. And somewhere on that website my e-mail address lives. I'm getting requests for reservations......monthly, in season, and have for five years now. I keep refering them to you via Hilde at Nomad. The thought of enterprise has passes through my mind..............but?
Could you please remove that e-mail address?
Say hi to Hilde
Richard
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Oh sh#t. Didn't know that. I'll send an email to wally and have him replace it with mine. Sorry, wasn't aware of this!
Hope all is well.
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guyman
Trad climber
Moorpark, CA.
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The U.S. National Park Service is to blame.....
there were MORE camping sites when it was a little known monument...
I wonder when they are going to make a official, "campground full" sign, instead of the little paper one they have posted year round in the booth.
Gerrrrrr......my pet peve...
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville
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The pit is a free place to park and camp.
It is not a secure place. Camp there if you are willing to accept the risk.
Do not bring guns to the pit.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Guyman's right.
NPS has poured millions of dollars into paving over the Monument, yet NOT ONE new campsite has been added in at least thirty years that I know of.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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ABSOLUTELY DO NOT BRING GUNS TO THE PIT. IF I FIND OUT ABOUT IT, YOU'RE OUT OF THERE!
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Steve L
Gym climber
SUR
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The U.S. National Park Service is to blame.....
A few dumb fuks and the as#@&%es who failed to raise them properly are to blame. No one else.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Spot on. The is often a misconception people seem to have. That road was payed for by federal hiway funds.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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"When seconds count--the police are just minutes away." That's why I always pack some heat in remote areas.
rlf: most people who DO pack do it in a very discreet manner. Not waving the thing around in public.
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Damn TWACKERZ!
Norwegian~ I'm glad you got to take a climbing trip to Josh, sorry this happeneed.
Looking forward to a proper trip report.
I've never been to the Pit, but a few weeks ago when EVERY SINGLE SITE in the entire park was full, I would have gladly taken my chances there. Scrubbed it and bailed instead.
GUY~ there was a proper "campgrounds full" sign at the gate, and everywhere
else.
TWACKERZ suck!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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NPS has poured millions of dollars into paving over the Monument, yet NOT ONE new campsite has been added in at least thirty years that I know of.
Actually the number of available campsites has been reduced. Several sites in HVCC were deleted during renovation, and the rarely used horse area in Ryan took a number of sites out of general use.
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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RJ-
You forgot option C) Don't go there at all.
By avoiding the pit altogether you can avoid your Option A and comply with the wishes of the owner/manager of the property. No one is forcing you to go there.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Add the asinine "two vehicles per site" rule - which applies to all sites, even those with ample space to park three or more vehicles - and you'll get groups that would be happy camping in one site instead having to ocupy several sites just so they can park their cars legally. This lowers the number of folks who can camp in the Monument for no good reason.
I don't mind paying the extra ten bucks a night for an additional site, and I can stake out (and pay for) as many sites as we need as early as I have to because of my flexible schedule, but somebody rolling in after work on Friday will be shut out when they otherwise wouldn't have to be.
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