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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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In fact, from now on...
everytime I see his post, I'm thanking goodness...
and I'm thanking all the gods...
Amon-Re, Marduk and Zeus
Quetzalcoatl, even Mother Goose
that I don't have the brain software in my head that's running in his. Hallelujah!
Go away.
Wes- I posted that, too, a few days back. It's awesome.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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HFCS,
Man, you are a very angry hateful person. Perhaps its the influence of High Fructose Corn Syrup you have been drinking too much of.
We all have a right to be here, including you, as long as you are not abussive to anyone. You are very close to that edge though, too many times.
I leave the ST forum open on my computer and I check into it easily just as I do email. Can you multi-task? I can. All teachers who have been teaching for a long time become very good at it. We have to.
Get over yourself.
I've been on ST a pretty long time. I enjoy the community and the debates. I've learned a great amount from others here. It's a great community as long as we respect one another and don't get abussive.
Perhaps you should ponder and think about that for awhile.
Edit:
Also do some reading and checking into things before you blast away ignorantly.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Reframing it is futile. (a fundamentalist Christian strategy)
Teaching certificate? You're blowin' smoke.
Adios.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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The actual evidence suggests that MOSSAD, Israel's Intel. Service, masterminded the 9/11 attacks, in order to make Americans feel that they are at war with the Muslim World. The Muslims who carried out the attack were used.
Osama Bin Laden initially said he had nothing to do with it; later videos in which he confesses, are faked according to European intel. experts.
A decorated Israeli soldier of the Yom Kipur War overheard people speaking in New Jersey in Hebrew, saying that "The Twin Towers were coming down" ..."Now the Americans will experience what we go through" and ... the Arabs are so stupid, they don't know we are using them..." This happened several months before the attacks.
In the New Jersey Record, it was reported that 5 Israelis were observed congratulating and high five-ing one another as the Twin Towers collapsed. They were later arrested as part of Urban Moving Systems, a MOSSAD front, along with many other Israelis that the FBI found were "somewho related to the attacks."
The FBI also discovered that MOSSAD was renting the apartment next to one of the porported "Masterminds" in Florida.
The FBI did say that "they don't have enough evidence against Bin Laden to put him on a "wanted poster" and that "the evidence linking Israel to the 9/11 attacks is classified.
Six of the 19 supposed hijackers are still alive, as they were victims of identity theft. This occured both in the U.K. and the Middle East. Bin Laden would not have been able to manage that from a cave. It required an Intel Service from a foreign nation.
I have nothing against Jewish People and am not anti-semetic, but the evidence suggests that MOSSAD pre-placed explosives in the Twin Towers and masterminded the operation.
There are a number of foreign Intel experts who agree with this view.
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ec
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ca
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Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous
By Washington's Blog
March 08, 2010 "Washington's Blog" -- Most Americans don't know what kind of people 9/11 truthers really are. So they can't figure out whether or not they are dangerous.
Below is a list of people who question what our Government has said about 9/11.
The list proves - once and for all - that people who question 9/11 are dangerous.
Email this list to everyone you know, to prove to them that 9/11 truthers are all dangerous nut cases.
Senior intelligence officers:
Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath.
A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke”, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.
A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis (William Bill Christison) said “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11." (and see this).
A number of intelligence officials, including a CIA Operations Officer who co-chaired a CIA multi-agency task force coordinating intelligence efforts among many intelligence and law enforcement agencies (Lynne Larkin) sent a joint letter to Congress expressing their concerns about “serious shortcomings,” “omissions,” and “major flaws” in the 9/11 Commission Report and offering their services for a new investigation (they were ignored)
20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (scroll down to Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).
A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East”, and whose astounding career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture Syriana (Robert Baer) said that "the evidence points at" 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job
The Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004 (Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup."
Professor of History and International Relations, University of Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency, former military attaché in China, with a 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army) questions the government's version of the events of 9/11.
Congressmen:
According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, an FBI informant had hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House (confirmed here)
Current Democratic U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy said "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"
Current Republican Congressman Ron Paul calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"
Current Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11
Current Republican Congressman Jason Chafetz says that we need to be vigilant and continue to investigate 9/11
Former Democratic Senator Mike Gravel states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11
Former Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee endorses a new 9/11 investigation
Former U.S. Democratic Congressman Dan Hamburg says that the U.S. government "assisted" in the 9/11 attacks, stating that "I think there was a lot of help from the inside"
Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee Curt Weldon has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job
9/11 Commissioners:
The Commission's co-chairs said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements (free subscription required)
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue
9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"
9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up"
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."
And the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) - who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry - recently said "At some level of the government, at some point in time...there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened". He also said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."
Other government officials:
U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time."
Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who's who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11
Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus) says "The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defense of incompetence."
The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility
President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt"
The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission
Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated: "If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"
Numerous other politicians, judges, legal scholars, and attorneys also question at least some aspects of the government's version of 9/11.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 03:33pm PT
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aspendougy,
I have heard this before. All I can say is I do not know. But I know that the Illuminati are throughout the world and these kinds of organizations are inter-related and the web is massively complex and inter-woven.
What I do know is that the Illuminati broadcasted that 9-11 would happen. The date and how it would happen. I suppose they can get whomever to carry it out and they probably did. That is their MO.
ec,
Nice! :-))
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
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Stich,
You might want to direct your friend to "Pilots for 9-11 Truth."
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Hi Klimmer:
Do you think that Rosicrucian Order, the Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis, and anyone who associated with, or studies Rosicrucianism, is evil?
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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No more worries, everything should be alright now.
Mytron The Fifth, Illuminati Ruler And Secret Overlord Of All Humanity, Dead At 112
March 9, 2010 | Issue 46•10
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2,000 MILES BENEATH BAVARIA, GERMANY—Mytron the Fifth, Illuminati ruler and secret mastermind of the entire human race since the year 8449 on the world's true calendar, died yesterday in his subterranean bedchamber. He was 112. Mytron, who assumed clandestine dominion of the planet upon the sudden withering of Hemmonphanes the Ancient, was perhaps best known for engineering more than 200 wars, economic catastrophes, and famines, and for having psychokinetic control over the inner thoughts of every man, woman, and child on earth. "He'll be missed," said a longtime friend and Roman Catholic archbishop who declined to be identified. Mytron is survived by 251 offspring, primarily from his human wives. http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/mytron_the_fifth_illuminati
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aldude
climber
Monument Manor
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This begs the question....who are Mytron and the Illuminati?
Answer : Reptillian Hybrids who colonized Earth !
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Binks
Social climber
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Sorry but Lucifer does not exist and "the Serpent" was actually an alien. As someone else mentioned "reptilian hybrid". The bible stories actually refer to fact that the alien (who looked much like a serpent) come to earth and attempted to mess with human DNA. This was a violation of "the Prime Directive" (did you think that was invented by Star Trek? Not.). Our collective "vibration" was lowered so that the alien wouldn't have access to the codes in our DNA. The aliens failed, they can't access the powers that got shut off, but they still existed among us, appearing human but not actually having human powers, they were replicas only, and yes "war" in general came from them. War was never a human construct. Because our own access to our own powers was lowered for "security reasons", the pre-lowered state of full access is known as "the Garden of Eden". We've all been cut off from a huge part of our power since this event, and we live much shorter lives for instance because of this. Originally the average human lifespan was around 700 years. The end of the serpent energy is what the Mayan calendar end date is really about. The damage done by the serpent will have an opportunity to be repaired at that time. Quetzalcoatl is the entity in charge of overseeing the exodus of the serpent energy from planet Earth in 2012. He is also, I think, from another star system. Lots of people have figured out the real story, some of them independently, like Terrence McKenna for one. There is actually a good entry point here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timewave_zero#Timewave_zero_and_the_I_Ching BTW, 9/11 has nothing to do with any of this. If you're talking about institutions or people serving "the Serpent" then this could be true in some sense. It's part of the same alien infection to end in 2012, it has nothing to do with primitive dualistic ideas of "God vs Lucifier". No such opposition exists. "The serpent" isn't some demigod ruling some mythical hell. Rather, an alien from another star system who attempted to f*#k with the human race's DNA, and as a result we've been collectively lowered in access to our own power until the last of the alien presence is gone. This is going to be a great thing when it happens. 2012 is potentially the time of our restoration to our full human powers. The "powers that be" know this is coming and they are terrified. The systems we live under will be utterly obsolete once we are restored to the full powers of our DNA.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Get yourself into D.C. get downstairs or on underground sub, then get off at the Pentagon Metro station.
Wear a suit, underneath the jacket laden your chest with a couple racks of a dozen #10, #12 cams, maybe sling 4 on one side and 8 on the other or 6 on each, that would be up to you, throw some stoppers in as well, adjust accordingly. Make sure you feel comfortable.
Walk in a cool and calmly manner, show no emotion in your face, approach the officers that are about to ask for your pass. But just before they actually ask you say “Who in the #$ct is behind 9/11?”
Maybe they can help or answer your questions.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 02:29am PT
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Yea, I suppose Osama Bin Laden has influence over movie production so that he can telecast, or broadcast what his intentions are and what he would do regarding 9-11-01.
Yep, Arab Muslims with box-cutter knives have this kind of pull to place very subtle messages regarding what they will do on 9-11-01 throughout Hollywood movies.
Yea, they have that kind of pull, are that clever, and that is their typical MO. Yep. RRRrrrriiiiiggggghhhhhhtttttt.
Keep in mind all the following scenes from Hollywood movies came out before 9-11-01. If these have been found, then there is much, much more in many more movies. No doubt.
No, only those who are well connected, have big money, have influence, have an incredibly evil agenda, and have the desire to use symbology and subtle messages to get the word out, do this sort of thing. It is their stamp of approval. It is the way they do things. They like to broadcast their intentions before they do it. All of this is Illuminati MO.
They do indeed brag and love to do so at times. Just as long as you know but can't do anything about it. This is nirvana to them. What a massive power trip and power play.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 10, 2010 - 02:44am PT
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Klimmer, the whole lot of you are complete whack jobs and do more damage than Bin Laden could ever hope to. In fact, I'd go so far as to say you and yours are Bin Laden succeeding. It's just another form of fundamentalism - fringe fundamentalism, but fundamentalism all the same.
P.S. You still haven't exonerated the aliens...
Coz: I will invite Bin Laden, he is staying with me in Burbank.
Ha, I know for a fact that a clean-shaven and crewcut Bin Laden is at this very moment sunning himself on the Spanish Riviera in a man-thong. Hell, he's been the picture of health since a couple of his suicide bombers each donated a kidney before earning their virgins. Just another old beach perv on the hunt for new virgins, but they're never going to find him.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Mar 10, 2010 - 02:51am PT
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Ok, that's it. Klimmer went too far on that last post and tipped his hand. This is a long-running troll.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 02:53am PT
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They see, but they don't understand.
They hear, but they don't comprehend.
Sad.
Edit:
Troll =
"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet);
I'm the one who started this topic. I told you from the start it would be contraversial and scary. I told you we would be going down the rabbit hole.
It is OT for ST but it was labelled as such. Seems that is ok, as long as we all know that up-front.
I'm not getting inflammatory. Others maybe, but I'm not.
So how am I a troll? Please explain.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 10, 2010 - 03:07am PT
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Klimmer, what size shirt do you wear? This is important.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 09:38am PT
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Thanks, but no thanks.
I have plenty of T-shirts, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like what you might want to give me.
Just saying.
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