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klk

Trad climber
cali
Feb 8, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
jesus wept
WandaFuca

Social climber
From the gettin place
Feb 8, 2010 - 04:04pm PT
I can never decide between,



"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Psalm 137:9



OR



"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

1 Samuel 15:3



OR



"Slaves, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the perverse."

1 Peter 2:18



OR



“If two men fight together, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of the one attacking him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall not pity her."

Deuteronomy 25:11-12





Oh, I give up!!!!!!!!!!111111111

There are just so many great bible passages!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
Feb 8, 2010 - 04:35pm PT
Be Fishers of Men – Not of Fish (John 21:1-17)
Gene

Social climber
Feb 8, 2010 - 04:52pm PT
What about Psalm 72.3?

Let the mountains bring peace to the people.

Can we all accept this one, believer or knott?

Gene
howlostami

Trad climber
Southern Tier, NY
Feb 8, 2010 - 04:54pm PT
Easy.

Book of Armaments, Chapter 2, verses 9-21,

“ ...And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the Lord did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... [At this point, the friar is urged by Brother Maynard to "skip a bit, brother"]... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceedest on to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." Amen."
Gene

Social climber
Feb 8, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceedest on to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached...

That's funny! Good parody. LOL

Gene
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Feb 8, 2010 - 05:12pm PT
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why Flouride, Jingy and others act so threatened by this post. I've decided it must be a bit like citizens in the Roman Empire dealing with slaves. Roman law forbade slaves from wearing any distinctive clothing or devices because the Romans didn't want the slaves to know who the other slaves were, for fear they would revolt if they knew they were so numerous. I think the anti-Christians here feel the same way. They don't want Christian climbers on the Taco to know who the other ones are, although I can't think of a rational reason why.

John
rick d

climber
ol pueblo, az
Feb 8, 2010 - 05:16pm PT
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I killed because they pissed me off.
Gene

Social climber
Feb 8, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
So sayeth the Coach. Heareth you knott the wailing and gnashing of your wives, sons and minions in the City of the Anointed, the Land of Saints? Wounded and bloodied we are by the evil legions of the Horse’s shoes, but, alas, I say unto you, the battle has yet to be finished. Verily, I say unto you and your generations by seven, enter the final half with a feint, a ploy, a Truth for the faithful, yet a deceit of the damned. Kicketh the ball the length of four pure, immaculate and sacred sheep, worthy of sacrifice, and place your mightiest men as beast to the left.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 8, 2010 - 05:28pm PT
And here I thought the US was a nation of Super Bowl worshippers, bowing down before false idols and all that stuff. Learn something new every day.
Chip

Trad climber
Sittin' Pretty in Fat City
Feb 8, 2010 - 05:33pm PT
It is hard to believe that this group could be so condescending and insensitive to someone's deeply held beliefs. I am sincerely disappointed, not that those I am calling out care for anything but themselves and feeling self-righteous.
Climbing website? Please, this site encompasses what we are concerned and passionette about, not just the selfish act of climbing that we all struggle to justify to ourselves. Where is the outcry when a thread bashing a political view gets thousands of replies. Why the hippocracy? Why the knee jerk hate? You out to be ashamed of yourselves.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 8, 2010 - 05:55pm PT
It is hard to believe that this group could be so condescending and insensitive to someone's deeply held beliefs.
And it's very hard to believe that anyone would show up on a climbers' website and preach about religion. There's a right time and place for everything, and this isn't it.

Note that Cragman (and perhaps other) post reports about their volunteer work in developing countries, often in context of a faith-based organization, and no one minds that. He mostly lets his good works speak for him and his faith - although maybe those he's helping get a bit more of a message. But he doesn't preach at us.
climbinginchico

Trad climber
Modesto, CA
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:00pm PT
Dingus, that's one of my favorite books. My wife's engagement ring to me, which I still wear on my left index finger, has Song of Solomon 6:3 in Hebrew on it.

Whenever I have a tough day I focus on Ephesians 6:13: "Therefore, put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes you will be able to stand your ground. And when all is said and done, to stand." I actually have this tattooed on the inside of my right bicep.

Psalm 91 is a favorite, so are the classic John quotes 3:16 and 14:6. Pretty much anything that is my favorite I have tattooed on me, so I need to include Revelation 22:13.
apogee

climber
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:03pm PT
"It is hard to believe that this group could be so condescending and insensitive to someone's deeply held beliefs."

"He (Cragman) mostly lets his good works speak for him and his faith - although maybe those he's helping get a bit more of a message. But he doesn't preach at us."

Weeeeellll, not so much on his latest Ecuador thread, maybe. But your point still stands.
micronut

Trad climber
fresno, ca
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
One of my favorites...

From the book of JOHN, Chapter 1

"3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it."

Yeah, I agree it's kinda weird how much some people on this site seem to despise Christianity. Sure, its a climbing site, but the forum seems to have more talk about climate change, politics and the corny side of life than it does climbing.

If folks don't like the sound of a thread they can choose not to click, right?
I have resisted the temptation to click on many a thread over the years.
Like the Math Problem thread...yuck.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:09pm PT
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why Flouride, Jingy and others act so threatened by this post.

John, I don't think they, or anyone else here is "threatened" by a "What's your favorite bible quote" thread. The problem is something entirely different, and has two parts:

First, as is the case with political posts, or even climbing-related posts, when someone posts a new thread on a topic which is being covered in an existing thread, it just pushes new content off the first page. So, since there's a perfectly good religious thread going already, in which this same subject (bible quotes) comes up on virtually every page, why start a new thread? So not threatened, but irritated.

Second, and maybe more important, is the fact that this question just leads to endless stupidity, and is a big waste of time. The religious folks say "The Holy Bible is the Word of God" They say it over and over and over. But when someone asks the perfectly logical question "Well, what about where the bible says we should [insert bizarre verse about slavery, rape, killing], the answer is "Oh, well, that part doesn't count any more." Which leads to "Well, is it the word of god, or isn't it?" To which no one has a satisfactory answer.

Great big waste of time. You've got your religion, and that's fine. Don't push it on me, and I don't care what you believe. But if you (the plural you, as in you religious folk) want to bring up religion here on ST, then you're going to get asked the hard questions "Where is your god when someone is torturing and raping a child?" and "If the bible is the word of god, then what about [insert bizarre verse about slavery, rape, killing]?

If you bring up your political beliefs, and I question them, you will do your best to explain why you think they make sense. If I ask you how some particular tax breaks will benefit the country, you respond [insert rational explanation]. You may convince me, or you may not, but at least the discussion can be rational.

But with religion it's always the same non-answers when real questions are asked. Totally frustrating.

Anyway, you asked, so that's my take on it.
cintune

climber
the Moon and Antarctica
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:10pm PT
The children asked him if to kill was not a sin,
"Not when he looked so fierce!" his mummy butted in.
If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.
All the children sing....
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:11pm PT
mt10910- "palm 4:73"

?? where is there a palm 4:73 in the Holy Bible?
jstan

climber
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:13pm PT
This morning while researching the Pharisees I was astonished to learn the various religious sects among the Jews before 0 BC were in constant struggles, murders, revolts, in the name of god but

all done to gain secular power over people.

Nothing has changed. Believers are still going around shooting people here today.

So little creativity, after all of this time.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 8, 2010 - 06:27pm PT
Oh man, where to begin? So many good ones. WandaFuca had a few favorites. One of which reminded me of this other one from Deuteronomy:

Deuteronomy 23:1
"No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord"

Deuteronomy's full of weirdness:
Deut. 28:53
"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the FLESH of they sons and of they daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee."

It also contains some important guidelines regarding punishing rapists:
Deut. 22:28-29
"If a man rapes a virgin and gets caught, he must pay 50 pieces of silver to her father, and then marry her."

What if he rapes a non-virgin? What if he doesn't get caught? Here's a good one, although it makes me self-conscious:

Ezekiel 23:19-20
"Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions."

I forget the context, but this one's just strange:

2 Kings 18:27
"Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?"

Sure thing, buddy. He most certainly hath. Now get up on that wall and start eating poop! That "book" is truly the strangest compilation of nonsense ever gathered. Knock yourselves out, people.
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