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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Is Alex Baker somebody you don't like?
Are you guys beta testing some internet filters for the Homeland Security Internet Bots?
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Chatsworth
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I have this USGS article that explains in detail how to build large Ammonia nitrate bombs.
Juan
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hobo
Trad climber
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No, Karl, thats me. I used to make those in high school, for whatever reason. Im reasonably sure making those things isnt illegal... hmmmmm. do you know?
alex
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prongo
Trad climber
east side kid
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damn- hard top that one
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BKW
Mountain climber
Central Texas
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Yea Juan, thats scarier than when some one threw a hand full of 22's into the fire.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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I make Ammonal (legally) all the time!
I use it for exploding targets!
Ammonium Nitrate and Aluminum Powder.
It is considered a binary explosive...so as long as you mix it where you detonate it,
don't transport it and don't store any in a mixed form, your legal.
It is very powerful but quite stable.
Requires the use of a blasting cap or the way I do it is to
shoot it with a high powered rifle.
Be careful, cuz technically it's a blasting agent and creates a pretty powerfull shock wave.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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When I wis a kid once we were camped at Twin Lakes (Materhorn Sierra) the people in the next site burned a bag of gabage that contained an old propane cannister.
KA-BOOM. Deafening, full mushroom flame, injuries, ambulance, the works. My dad made me put our own fire out.
I recall a couple of scary incidents involving aerosal cans and campfires; Phoenix Bouldering Contest, and a slide show party at paradise forks, the common factor may have been Sherman.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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I was teaching a 3 day class in Alabama last year, and one of the guys attending was from Mississippi and we stayed at the same hotel.
I rode with him in the morning and noticed an empty box of "exploding targets" on the floor of his truck.
I tell him about Ammonal, where to get it etc. He orders some that nite!
I talk to him on the phone a couple weeks later and he tells me the fun he's having with it.
He lives on 40+ acres and was doing it in his back yard!
He tells me that the cops came, but thought it was the coolest thing, and he even took some down to the police range for them to play with.
All good right? Not so fast.
I talk to him in another couple of weeks and he tells me that he just spent $6,000 replacing ALL the windows in his house.
Why I said, remodeling?
No, he says and proceeds to tell me what happened.
I guess the small ones and even the 2 liter bottles full he was doing weren't big enough for him. So he got an idea.
He started with the standard small bottle, about 8 oz of Ammonal,
and stuck that into a one pound can of shotgun shell powder!
He says it was about 80 yards from his house, and he shot it from about 60 yards away. When it went off, it blew out every window in his house, blew his wife off the couch in the house, blew stuff off the walls, and glass landed on him 20 yards away from the house.
Even blew his pump house off the foundation!
He said he could see the shock wave as it traveled through the trees.
His friend who lives almost ten miles away thought it sounded like thunder from his house.
The cops came and weren't so friendly this time.
He's lucky he knows them all.
His wife flipped out etc...bad scene.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Chatsworth
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Shack, LOL.
I was at a NSS Caving Convention in TAG. These TAG guys got drunk and start throwing half sticks of Dynamite into the air.
It was the loudest explosuions I ever heard.
It was fantastic.
I really did used to operate a light gas gun at Caltech.
Fastest in the west!
Juan
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Hey Shack or any of you pyro/gun nut types, have you ever heard of someone shooting a big big propane tank, like the size of one behind a house, out in desert or somewhere, for kicks?
Seems like a natural, but I've never heard of someone doing it. Does it work like I'd imagine?
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Edge
Trad climber
New Durham, NH
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In the early eighties, when we had to hang our food from trees, there was one particular year heavy with bear problems, and at the far end of Camp 4 (Sunnyside then, puke)there was a bear trap set up to capture one particularly pesky problem bear.
One day, after a campsite neighbor lost all of his food, several very nice stacking aluminum pans, and a cookstove to the beast, he told me that he was "going to get back at that fvkker by putting 6 hits of purple microdot in some raw hamburger and setting it out late at night."
Fortunately, I was able to reason with him, and point out the downside of an animal of that size, with claws, teeth, and all, tripping his a$$ off.
The microdot was then put to more productive use, or so I am told...
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deuce4
Big Wall climber
the Southwest
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Anybody make a grease bomb? Heat a #10 can of grease to boiling, then add water (at the end of a 14 foot oar or equivalent). The resulting fireball can go as high as 30 feet and last for quite a few seconds...
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Landgolier
climber
Arlington, VA
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When I was a kid a bunch of the dads had a hunting camp way out in BFE, mostly a boys thing but to keep the wives happy we'd do a big family campout there once a year. A little too much money sloshing around, so at some point they decided they were sick of dealing with small propane cylinders and they were just going to get a big home-sized tank, and when they needed it filled they'd just hoist it up onto the back of one of the swamp buggies, drive it out to the road, and meet the propane guy there. Flawless plan, what could go wrong? Over the years they managed to:
-Drop it off the winch
-Drop it off the back of the buggy onto a stump and dent it
-Drop it off the back of the buggy into about 3' of water
-Back into it with a truck, breaking off the line and spewing half a tank of gas out with a campfire going 50 yards away, causing them to haul ass out of there at a dead sprint for about 1/4 mile where they then stood around in the woods for 3-4 hours debating what to do and which way the wind was going and which summamabitch's fault it was.
-Decide they were tired of the danger of hauling it with a little gas left and decide to just crack a valve and blowtorch off all the gas (8' jet of flame, several trees singed)
-Leave it by the road overnight when de gas mon didn't show up (this was back in the CB radio days) and come back the next day to discover somebody had plunked it about 5 times with a .22, but whoever did it didn't have the balls to get close enough to do any damage and had shot from waaay back, so there were only some tiny divots.
The fact that the big kaboom never actually happened speaks only to the universe's willingness to protect fools and little children.
Also, this is geeked out, but a tradition at my college was to gather on a sunday morning in may, appropriately hung over/blazed/unslept/unshowered/puking, pass out the full score for the 1812 overture, cover any missing instruments with the non-orchestral randomness that people brought (autoharp, casio keyboard, bagpipes, etc...) and then pass out kazoos to cover the rest (5 man plastic kazoo brigade trying to be a french horn section is a beautiful thing), rehearse for exactly one hour, and then lay into it for all we were worth (not much). The kicker was we would do this in a courtyard beneath a set of pre-communist russian church bells salvaged in the early lenin days. These would be used for the bell parts, despite the fact that they were not tuned to the normal modern scale. The real kicker, though, was doing the canon shots with MASSIVE baloons filled with lab gas, pinned to the ground with tent stakes and torched off by a guy in Mr. Wizard goggles with a road flare duct taped to the end of a 10' bamboo pole. Absolute brilliant madness, in a geeky sort of way...
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prongo
Trad climber
east side kid
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Juan got me thinking
does anybody know where i can get some of that highly enriched uranium? ya know for entertainment purposes only.
oh yeah i'll need some of that real thick aluminum tube but only about 4 feet or so and what kind of detonator will i need for it all?
and do i need any safety precautions or can i just light the fuse and run?
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2005 - 02:12pm PT
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When I was in the Army in Germany, back in the mid 70s. I was initially stationed in a maintance unit. Well the guys who were in the supply platoon (the guys who ordered all the material for surrounding units) ordered, 1 U.S. Army Atomic Bomb Simulator. This consisted of a 55 gallon drum filled with C4. They somehow got it into the supply depot and were planning of celebrating the 4th of July, for the benefit of our German hosts, by blowing it off in a field nearby. LOL, man when the company CO found out about that, all sorts of sh#t started going down.
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Roger Brown
climber
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I got my spud gun from Spudguntechnology.com. Fast service and he makes a great product. If you don't want to buy one of his, he will provide instructions on how to build your own.
Roger
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Yep Jaybro...The propane tank is a long standing favorite of us "gun nuts".
We usually take the small ones that you get for your Coleman stove.
They're cheap and not too dangerous.
We've tried exploding tip bullets to set them off,
but it's much easier to just set a flare next to them and shoot them.
Sometimes its a pretty good kaboom, but many times it's just a fireball. Always beware of the flying canister!
Here is where to get your own exploding targets.
They are legal...I checked with my friend who is pretty high up in the ATF(and also a gun "nut"). Enjoy!
http://www.tannerite.com/she_exploding_targets.html
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Also for real great homemade noise makers...
The Acetylene and Oxygen baggie bombs Rule!
Standard procedure is to fill plastic garbage bags,
But my buddy fills balloons with the mixture, connects a time delay fuse,
something like 3 to 4 minutes,
lights them and lets them float up over his neighborhood
and BOOOOM!!!
They are usually quite high when they go off but they put off a major flash and concussion!
Not traceable either!!
PS: Acetylene and oxygen are the 2 gases from a standard welding torch, in case you didn't know!
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jbaker
Trad climber
Takoma Park, MD
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A friend of mine set this off this summer. Note the person on the right for scale.
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