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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I agree.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2009 - 09:58pm PT
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I appreciate the support :-)
I agree that we are expected to make right on our own. That has always been GOD's expectation. We made the mess and we are expected to clean it up and we should. I'm not telling anyone to kick-back and wait for Jesus.
I know in time Jesus will return. He said he would. I also know it is gonna get a lot worse, before it gets better, the good book says so. But that is no excuse to let it happen. We are supposed to resist evil and call it out and work against evil in all its forms. That is pretty much what got Jesus killed, that and that he said he was the Messiah. They didn't like that too much.
But he left all true believers with a job to do. What to look for, and what the signs of the times would be, to watch and be ready, and that we are the salt of the Earth. He told us to be ready for his return. That doesn't mean sitting around waiting with our eyes to the sky. There is much work to do. He left us with jobs to do: take care of the Earth, make Peace not War, and spread the good news (not cram it down anyone's throat. If people reject it we are to move on and pray for them), among many other responsibilities, like care for the homeless, the mother and father-less, and to care for the sick. In other words, doing the right thing and living a life by example, not just words. I have a long way to go.
By the way, if anyone is still doubting that 9-11 was an inside job, this has to be one of the best studies done to show the government is lying and covering up and that the Pentagon attack was truly a false-flag black op and we did it to ourselves. Well, if the Pentagon was an inside job, then so was all of 9-11. Watch the film, "National Security Alert":
Independent Investigation Into Pentagon Attack Yields Alarming Information
August 30th, 2009 7:42 AM
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/08/30/investigation-pentagon-attack-show-monst#more6109
NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION
by Citizen Investigation Team
http://vimeo.com/4777716
We need a total independant World community investigation of 9-11 no matter how bad it hurts. When the lie of 9-11 falls, the war on terror and the reign of terror by the Neo-cons and GOP will be over along with anyone who supports their lies, immoral conduct, and crimes against humanity.
On edit:
I served 2 years in the US Army Honor Guard. I took an oath that I still believe in. I was Infantry, but not the Bad A@* Jim was in Special Forces. Thought about going into the Rangers, but then woke up from that dream in time to go to college like I always intended to do.
The oath of service: http://www.history.army.mil/faq/oaths.htm
The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:
"I, _, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
Anyone who serves in the Peace Corp is a hero in my book. Awesome program started by JFK, a wonderful President who gave his life to try and do the right thing. The Military-Industrial-Spy-NASA Space complex didn't like that at all, and sadly took his life.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Chaz, I was accepted by the Peace Corps back in 1977.
Unfortunately I didn't take the position I was offered by them,
and continually kick myself for not having done so.
But I've been a pacifist all of my life.
War is only good for generals and arms dealers.
Period.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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War is what kept the Nazis from running all of Europe.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2009 - 11:00pm PT
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TGT,
I knew about the 2 captured US planes caught possible spraying, hadn't heard about the shoot down. Thanks, I'll check it out.
Edit:
Here is more on the Pentagon on 9-11 that I hadn't seen until just now . . .
9/11 Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible
Text size
PilotsFor911Truth
November 29, 2009
http://www.infowars.com/911-pentagon-aircraft-hijack-impossible/
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Wasn't just the Good War.
It was also the last war. Congress hasn't declared war since.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jesus was a community organizer.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jesus was a community organizer.
How many times do we have to keep telling these left wing wackos,
"Barrack Obama is not the messiah."
ZING!
THAT was funny! :-)
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Chaz (and others), referring to World War II:
Wasn't just the Good War. It was also the last war. Congress hasn't declared war since. Except that Japan (de facto - December 7th, 1941) and then Germany (de jure - December 11th, 1941) first declared war on the USA, which then responded. Not that there was much choice by that point. Although arguably there was a state of undeclared, lukewarm naval war with both countries from earlier in 1941.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Good stuff on the Military Channel today… :)
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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Just another day on the Internet folks...
few cool climbing trips
some Raynauds syndrome
bad-ass freaky Nuns,
and yer basic genocide conspiracy
fun for the whole family!
alright, well, excuse me while I grab
some more pop-corn, a fith of Turkey
and a couple qualudes...
:-O
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Realist
Big Wall climber
Victoria Australia
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Hi All,
I am just going to put in my 2 cents worth on this subject and clarify meanings and terminology:
1. Mercenary: A mercenary is a professional soldier hired by a foreign army, as opposed to a soldier enlisted in the armed forces of the sovereign state of which he/she is a citizen. He/She takes part in armed conflict on many different scales, and is "motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks
2. Private Security Contractor: He or she is used to provide security in the same manner as you would in close personal protection in your home country, that being you have operators doing CPP and you have managers the same as back home. They do not carry out ANY offensive action against a threat but they do carry weapons. They cannot participate in any military action with ANY military unit with weapons.
Dave
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2009 - 10:15am PT
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Rokjox,
Wow! Great summary.
It is a good film.
If people would just watch it, shut-up, and let it sink in, our World could be different (for the better).
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2009 - 01:09pm PT
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I have heard the joke that Xe stands for "X-out (kill) everyone."
Not so funny.
By the way, this will be one of the most important pdf you will ever read:
INTERVIEW WITH MAJOR DOUG ROKKE, PH.D
Former Director of the U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project
A Military Perspective
An Interview With
MAJOR DOUG ROKKE, Ph. D
Former Director of the
U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project
Interview
By W. Leon Smith
http://www.amvets-ca.org/pdfs/RECA/INTERVIEW%20WITH%20MAJOR%20DOUG%20ROKKE.pdf
It deals with the evils of DU, that 9-11 was an inside job, and the real reasons we went into Iraq.
Not to mention how we are killing our troops and the rest of the World with the fallout, and half-life of Depleted Uranium. Yep, kill for the next 4.5 Billion years. It is a crime against all humanity and they are doing it in our names.
I'm blown away. I had not read this before.
What does DU do?
Depleted Uranium: an Introduction (complete slide show)
Dr. Fasy is an Associate Clinical Professor of Pathology at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City. He has longstanding interests in carcinogenesis and environmental toxicology. In the past two years, he has lectured at conferences and university campuses on the toxic effects of inhaling uranium oxide dusts derived from depleted uranium weapons.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4124449
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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I have heard the joke that Xe stands for "X-out (kill) everyone."
Not so funny.
You just lost any credibility you had left....
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WBraun
climber
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No, the Vice President is just the head of the Senate. Cheney runs the thing because George is an idiot."
Hahaha LOL We've said it all along.
Then there's the nerve of that idiot fattrad always sticking up to Dick Cheney, even so far as trying to get the fuking assho'le to come to the face lift.
Yeah bring the stupid prick fattrad, we'll lower that m'fuker off glacier point on a single rope and put a knife to it and tell him to talk or else, ....
Whoops the knife slipped ......
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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SteveW - Amy is all that and a bag of tricks!!!!
Asking the tough questions, nailing down the answers, exposing the dark undercarriage of society, business, government and others...
Too bad it was not main stream, too bad this stuff was not common knowledge...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Hahaha LOL We've said it all along.
Then there's the nerve of that idiot fattrad always sticking up to Dick Cheney, even so far as trying to get the fuking assho'le to come to the face lift.
Yeah bring the stupid prick fattrad, we'll lower that m'fuker off glacier point on a single rope and put a knife to it and tell him to talk or else, ....
Whoops the knife slipped ......
And here I thought you were above crap like that...must be the holidaze.
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Footloose
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe
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America...
the "United States of Amnesia"
Highly Recommended: Why We Fight (2005)
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