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WBraun
climber
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Aug 23, 2011 - 09:59pm PT
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Nobody died on the cables on this one.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 23, 2011 - 10:15pm PT
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Suicide? :(
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Aug 23, 2011 - 10:30pm PT
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A parachute-less BASE jump is my best guess. Sad.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 23, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
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Very sad to see such a high toll this year.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:03pm PT
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The cables/trail were closed early in the day.
Yes, the clothesline hearsay is that it was another suicide. I doubt Werner would be at liberty to reveal anything, here, until an investigation is completed.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
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Jennie nails it .....
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Mimi
climber
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Aug 23, 2011 - 11:50pm PT
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Real funny, BASE. Look what you started. How could someone falling on the cables be seen by climbers on the face?
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Aug 24, 2011 - 12:32am PT
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Chief; if only depression was that simple.
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WanderlustMD
Trad climber
New England
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Aug 24, 2011 - 12:36am PT
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Horrible, whether it was a suicide or not. Condolences to all involved.
I usually try to ignore such comments...but that was pretty classless, Chief.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 24, 2011 - 12:42am PT
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If yur gonna do the most selfish and cowardly thing any human can and do yourself in, can you please have the common courtesy to do so where no one can find and then have to clean up yur mess nor potentially take anyone else with you.
So the family can never gets closure. Good idea Chief. Meh.. Sorry you don't have a clue about depression.
Not that I condone putting others at risk.
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:07am PT
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I'll stand for the chief
suicide is definitely selfish and certainly cowardly
How much pain do you have to be in to exact lasting punishment upon all of your loved ones?
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:09am PT
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How much pain should your loved ones expect you to put up with?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:09am PT
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Chief, you are certainly not offending HIM. Unless you are sh*tfaced stupid, you understand that you ARE offending other people HERE.
I can't quite fathom why you are ranting and raving and yelling at a dead guy about giving people RESPECT, when YOU won't give LIVING people respect RIGHT NOW.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:12am PT
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does not seem to me that anyone actually knows the circumstances of this unfortunate event (did i miss something? why would a person falling accidentally not yell out?)
also seems to me that nobody has walked a mile in the shoes of another.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:13am PT
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Are you new here Ken ?
Ranting and raving is what Chief does best .
And he's from the Eastside
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:18am PT
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does not seem to me that anyone actually knows the circumstances of this unfortunate event (did i miss something? why would a person falling accidentally not yell out?)
Yep.. better to wait for the investigation to be finished. A yell at the beginning could be a yell from a slip.
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I Still want to know why its selfish to kill oneself, but not selfish for family or friends to expect someone to live in hell. Would it still be selfish to kill oneself if you knew your health problems would bankrupt your family?
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And just to remind the Chief, I don't condone or support someone endangering others doing anything, including killing themselves.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:18am PT
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Are you new here Ken ?
Ranting and raving is what Chief does best .
And he's from the Eastside
Forgive my moment of weakness.......
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dipper
climber
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:20am PT
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cheef nose.
period.
peace to the fella that flew off the dome.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Aug 24, 2011 - 01:27am PT
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to say that suicide is selfish and cowardly is silly and ignorant
might bum out witnessing climbers for a spell, I guess (or not), but that can't possibly compare with whatever personal ordeals the suicide is going through
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