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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:11am PT
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You need Jesus!
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:45am PT
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Jesus; Bread of life,
John 6:35, Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.
John 6:48-51, I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:59am PT
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maybe something in a syringe would be less morbid...
..I'll pass on the bread, too much gluten already, gotta cut down on the carbs....
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Homer
Mountain climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 01:01am PT
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While I'm sure there exists deeper ironies in the universe, I cannot know what they are... so I'll stick with my candidate...
I guess that's pretty much my point Ed. We all seem to be sure of things even when we have no idea whether or not they exist.
When we have a solid foundation of information around the subject we can be pretty much right, as far as we can tell. But even when we don't have enough information to know, we still seem to need to have a belief about it.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 01:19am PT
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I believe there are deeper ironies
I know of one irony
seems the language was pretty clear... and this is not science, of course, but just opinion... hell, someone might not think it an irony at all, some might not even know what irony is...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 01:41am PT
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"...he just said Wow!
just Wow!..."
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Nov 14, 2009 - 07:57am PT
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Of death;
Some people believe in nothing, that's all folks!
Others think you come back as a Donkey, etc. ?
God told us His plan, but still others don't like it His way?
They cry when they get Ice Cream!
Jesus offers us a ticket to Paradise,
I call that a bargain, the best I ever had!
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Nov 14, 2009 - 08:57am PT
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Nov 14, 2009 - 09:02am PT
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how come there's
in women in the
"holy trinity"?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 11:22am PT
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from Freakwater, Are You Ready?
Are you ready?
For your new home in the sky
Think your luck will finally turn around
The minute that you die
And all your prophets
Who profit only from your fears
Will they stand by and hold your hand
When the end is finally near
Are you ready?
To claim your great rewards
To climb those shining stairs
And shake hands with your lord
When you look down on those poor sinners such as I
Who missed our chance to be redeemed
Will your laughter drown our cry
Are you ready?
To leave this sinful world
Like to read your name
When that great scroll is unfurled
And if Jesus called you home
When that angel trumpets sound
Won't you just leave me alone
If I'm six feet underground
Are you ready?
For your new home in the sky
Think your luck will finally turn around
The minute that you die
And all your prophets
Who profit only from your fears
Will they stand by and hold your hand
When the end is finally near
Are your ready?
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 14, 2009 - 11:39am PT
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The use of the word sky in the lyric is already defective.
The planet earth is already floating in the material sky along with the other planets.
Traveling from one material planet to another is not that difficult.
Modern science using mechanical means is worst than the cave man style.
They think they are advanced when in reality long ago people traveled across the universe by far superior ways.
Puffed up with their modern so called knowledge they wave their hands like little children and declare that such methods in the long past are just merely dreams and myths fermented within deluded minds.
Thus they perpetually remain in their stone man cave.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:02pm PT
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Spanish Pipe Dream -John Prine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9RBgfUvymM
"She was a level-headed dancer on the road to alcohol
And I was just a soldier on my way to Montreal
Well she pressed her self against me
About the time the juke box broke
Yeah, she gave me a peck on the back of the neck
And these are the words she spoke"
(Chorus)
"...Blow up your t.v.; throw away your paper;
Go to the country; build you a home.
Plant a little garden; eat a lot of peaches;
Try an find Jesus on your own"
"...Well, I was young and hungry and about to leave that place
When just as I was leavin’, well she looked me in the face
I said "you must know the answer."
"she said, "no but I’ll give it a try."
And to this very day we’ve been livin’ our way
And here is the reason why
(Chorus)
We blew up our t.v.. Threw away our paper;
Went to the country. Built us a home.
Had a lot of children. Fed ’em on peaches.
They all found Jesus on their own"
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:04pm PT
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Werner, why the ad hominem?
All you need to do is just do it, then prove that you did it... simple, really. And an explanation would probably be a good idea too.
But the fact is, you, nor anyone else, has... perhaps they say they have, hey Capt. Kirk went on the Voyages of the Starship Enterprise.... so is it written...
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:12pm PT
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All you need to do is just do it, then prove that you did it... simple, really.
Yes exactly.
But they never try, modern science rejects the processes and created their own inferior system.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:13pm PT
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so just do it Werner...
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:18pm PT
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You're missing the boat completely.
This isn't just about you or me.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:20pm PT
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...as you know, I am willing to listen.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:23pm PT
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Then one day here (in person) we will discuss ....
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 14, 2009 - 12:45pm PT
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it's hard to imagine anyone working harder in YV than Werner & Merry... they definitely kick ass!
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