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madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Walla Walla, WA

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:13pm PT

No, no, Gary. You're all confused again. Let me try to help once more.

The fist-fights, chopping, shyting, bombing, defamation, etc., etc. are all the tactics that the (non-existent) climbing community employs to "police itself" to maintain the ethical purity of the sport.

Got it?

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Walla Walla, WA

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:15pm PT

Trying to imply that everyone around was cheerleading for objects thrown in their direction is pure bullsh#t.

Dimitri, "everyone" is indeed an overstatement, but so is "pure bullsh#t." YOU WERE one of the primary cheerleaders, and that you cannot deny. Remember that I was also there, as were a lot of other people that know the truth about YOU.

Meaty

climber

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:17pm PT

Typical of you two as#@&%es. I was in no way cheerleading for objects thrown in your direction. Get over yourself you f*#king wanker.

Edit: Madwanker, Some lame post about inciting a riot isn't gonna shut me up.
I don't give a sh#t if your silly climb is considered difficult, I still think you two as#@&%es suck ass for calling me one of the shitters all these years. Neferius got that lie from you, so f*#k you.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Walla Walla, WA

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:26pm PT

The United States statute defining riot. It's a pretty low bar.

A public disturbance involving (1) an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons, which act or acts shall constitute a clear and present danger of, or shall result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual or (2) a threat or threats of the commission of an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons having, individually or collectively, the ability of immediate execution of such threat or threats, where the performance of the threatened act or acts of violence would constitute a clear and present danger of, or would result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual.18 U.S.C. § 2102

Dimitri, you should take a look at what "inciting a riot" involves. You would do far better for yourself at this juncture on this topic to just stop posting.

Hawkeye

climber

State of Mine

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:27pm PT

meaty, get over yourself already

TwistedCrank

climber

Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:30pm PT

I liked Meaty better when he the errand boy for various of the elite. The upturned lizard shirt collar, the docksiders, the Levi jean jacket, the heal rocking.

Did you drink too much Hatorade or what?

It's a shame the sihtters will always be tagged as the sihtters. They'll have to live and die with that.

The C4 protagonistas who fueled a culture where some fugged up sh!t like that can actually happen will forever be accused of either being a sh!tter or of being a valley christian.

It's even more of a shame that the sh!tees will forever be tagged as the sh!tees. Even if they did deserve it. Or not.

Hawkeye

climber

State of Mine

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:34pm PT

mimi being one of the crappers sheds some lite on her rabidness (if that is in fact true). mimi, you have been called out? are you big enough to either deny or agree with the assertion? or just more rabid BS?

Gary

climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Aug 25, 2011 - 12:36pm PT

Trying to imply that everyone around was cheerleading for objects thrown in their direction is pure bullsh#t.

You're correct there. I have enough faith in my fellow climbers to think the big majority was appalled.

Bubba Ho-Tep

climber

Evergreen, CO

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:04pm PT

Pete:

What do you know, Mimi, that we don't know?

Mimi:

Jeeze, where do I begin?
As you may have noticed, we've said the same thing into infinity.

We know you've said the same thing for years.

What people are asking is: How do you KNOW FOR SURE that what you and SG say is fact?

You admit have never even met the FA party.

You admit that you haven't been on the route, not even the first pitch.

You admit that you haven't seen any of the hook placements.

So, it appears you don't actually know $hit from shinola yet you insist on presenting your opinions as fact.

You can chirp on forever, but most folks want to know:

Fact based on what?

Other than generalized opinions regarding the style the route was put up in (time involved, chipping involved, bat heads involved, etc. - all of which the FA party admits to) you don't have the cred to make any further statements.

That is to say, based on the known facts, anyone can have an opinion as to whether or not the FA style is personally acceptable but nobody except those who have climbed it and seen what exists can make a judgment regarding whether or not Mark and Richard are lying or breached some magical ethics barrier - yet you continue to do so.

And you keep presenting it as fact.

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:38pm PT

Meaty:

Again, you don't know what happened but you're here spewing lies and innuendo.

Evidence? The choppers/shitters claimed to have chopped your bolt ladder, that was all I needed.

No one is protecting anyone except the shitters

You don't know what happened. Based on the shitters claims (putting your trust in the word of someone willing to sh#t on someone's gear, not smart) you jumped on the bandwagon prepetuated lies and encouraged persecution, you're not responsible for it but you did foster an environment where dropping full beers was somehow a legitmate response. And who drops a full beer they are hauling on a wall? The ulimate lame act of spite. And to this day you still protect the shitters. The people who lied about what they found. The peole who chopped a pitch without climbing it first.

Bubba, for the record SG did say he saw evidence of drilled hook placements when he swung over to the top of the climb. Ammons reports may help clear that up because if the middle pitches are pristine and different from what SG saw that may have been the result of another party. At least that is some legitimate basis for controversy, but of course the derision started long before this.

To think you should protect someone who sh#t on someones gear or dropped full beers on someone (both NEVER justified no matter what the FA team did)...

Meaty

climber

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:45pm PT

Fet,
I do know what happened, and clearly you have no clue.
Listen up you f*#king dickwad, I never sh#t on anyones ropes, I never threw beer cans at anyone, get that you piece of sh#t??
Do you think I'm the only one that knows who the shitters are?
Loads of people know who they are, save your bullshit for them you f*#king punk. Save your delusional tripe for those accountable for what you consider unruly.

I'm free now as I was then to speak my mind, I never incited anyone to do anything.Don't lecture me you f*#king moron. Maybe by now you can see I could give a sh#t about the "pristine" Wings of Wankers??

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Walla Walla, WA

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:52pm PT

Wow, gasoline, just wow. Apparently you think that "unconditional love" is inconsistent with accountability.

And if you can equate a bit of attempted accountability on an Internet forum with....

Uh, well, nuff said.

TwistedCrank

climber

Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:53pm PT

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Walla Walla, WA

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:54pm PT

You clearly DO give a sh#t, Dimitri. You did then, you have for 29 years, and you do now.

Meaty

climber

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:56pm PT

No Madwanker, I don't care one bit and haven't for over 25 years, and then one of your fan boys posted lies fed to his tiny feeble brain from you here. Your climb was fun cannon fodder all those years ago, but now only a select few could give a sh#t, I'm not one of them. Just another El Cap climb done by a couple of dolts.

But I will take the time to defend myself. You two as#@&%es have called me one of the shitters for 29 years no matter how many times you lie and deny it. My response to that lie is f*#k you.
So when your wanker pal Randy posted that lie years ago I simply defended myself, he clearly heard the lie from you two chumps. Other than that I could give a rats ass about your dumbass climb, how it was done, who repeats it and how, who shits on it. I'm not alone.

I must have missed the riot, but keep the canards flowing dickwad, and keep swimming in your own sh#t.

Prod

Trad climber

Aug 25, 2011 - 01:57pm PT

Prod-

Given your request, here is a summary of my post in haiku.

the canary speaks
warns the snake of its own blight
snake hears only "tweet"

NICE POST Da-Dweeb.

Please note that that request was not a cut down. It's just that I get online about twice a day, and when I have to read long posts that could be shorter......

Prod.

TwistedCrank

climber

Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom

Aug 25, 2011 - 02:04pm PT

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Walla Walla, WA

Aug 25, 2011 - 02:05pm PT

Dimitri, show me a single place, anywhere, where I have accused you even once, much less "for 29 years" of being one of the shyters. Randy rattled your cage, but I have never said anything of the sort. And 29 years??? Actually not once, not ever.

You're an orbital module for other reasons, and you have incited to riot. But I know you weren't one of those who squatted and grunted.

And, stinkeye, you have good reason to hope, don't you? When did you get that nickname? Was that about 29 years ago?