1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
May 18, 2014 - 12:22pm PT
Oh yeah, we've linked Billy Carter to the purchase of the plane, but I'm sure that is just little stuff...

I'll sell ya a full can of Billy Beer....
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 19, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
I love this thread for its purgatory qualities.

Will Sidmo explode?

Will Licky go round and round for enough years for us all to be dead?
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
May 19, 2014 - 05:02pm PT

Lowrent-so-and-so - I use hyphens when I type on the little netbook, easier than punctuating properly, which, the last time I checked, was not a requisite for internet threads. If it makes you feel any better, I submit all drafts with edited punctuation, spelling, etc. I'm not submitting to you so you have no standing to correct my "writing" ("posting" is not writing.) As for defining words - do your own research next time, but here's something from the Merriam Webster Online Dictionary. They actually know a little bit about proper English there.
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Top 10 Commonly Confused Words, Vol. 1
#7: Pore/Pour
Question:
When you're attentively studying, are you poring over or pouring over the materials?
Answer:
poring
How to Remember It:
One reason this word trips us up is that both pour and pore are often followed by over.
But in this case it probably helps to think literally. When we're intently studying something, nothing is actually pouring (i.e., flowing, leaking) onto the object of study; in fact, if something did pour onto what you're poring over, your task would be far more difficult. The less familiar verb pore is correct.

Read more at http://www.merriam-webster.com/top-ten-lists/top-10-commonly-confused-words-vol-1/pore-pour.html#spAw9iFc519ipLMY.99
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Now, could you other trolls let it go against me? Help Licky or just read the thread for infotainment, but stop squabbling with me over whether or not I am literate. This is Licky's thread, and he has a tough row to hoe (and Loser-renzo, that is indeed the proper phrase. It has to do with farming and . . . oh why do I bother?)

If I knew anything about the mechanics of the plane I'd offer it to Licky, but I don't. He's told us that he's ascertaining why the crash happened in the first place, and that is still a mystery. If we don't know, and its safe to assume that the trolls on here don’t, we should let him do his work without interrupting with juvenile aggression. If that sounds uncharacteristic of me, call it a change of heart. We have alternately attacked Licky and praised him, maybe we should just leave him alone and let him write. It can't be easy or it would have been done already - if not by him by someone else. The story may belong to us all, but the book belongs to Licky, at least until he's able to sell us a copy. If you attack me or anyone else you detract from the effort - let him finish . . . please.


zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
May 19, 2014 - 06:03pm PT
Thanks for the update Ric.


EDIT:

I cannot at this time reveal my source(s).

Cause of Crash:
Unknown. Legend has it, the copilot was in on some conspiracy and shot the pilot in order to hijack the cargo. The struggle in the cockpit left the controls damaged and the plane unflyable. But like I said...that's the local legend.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Lest anyone forget, this whole saga on ST, started a (slight) bit before Ric, so add about 60 more entries in thread count (good way to buy sheets I've heard).

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/68674/Airplane-part-one

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Ric - 1/13/2007

Just when I thought I knew everything there was about this event someone comes forward and provides enough information for me to create another chapter.

I have now started to interview those involved in the drug dealing side of this story. The number 1 guy was found shot to death in his car a few months ago, but the number 2 guy has come forward to tell me about the world as he saw it 30 years ago. Pretty amazing stuff....stay tuned.

or Tune In, Turn On, Don't Drop Out


Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
May 19, 2014 - 06:46pm PT
Now, could you other trolls let it go against me? Help Licky or just read the thread for infotainment, but stop squabbling with me over whether or not I am literate.

Now THAT'S funny
Meme Guy

Boulder climber
NC
May 22, 2014 - 05:41pm PT
Ricks just making sh#t up now, pulling anything out of the air.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 22, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
zBrown, yer legend was likely incubated by the plane's cargo. I can't
imagine any struggle damaging the controls enough to make it uncontrollable.
I could easily see a struggle resulting in it going out of control. Hand
flying it at night at low altitude would leave little margin of error. But
hard to see how that scenario could be proven. But I trust Licky will
reveal all, in due time.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
May 22, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
^Well you took all the suspense out of it Reilly. I was going to gradually build up to revealing you as the source of this story. This report was made on that plane crash database you've been compiling all these years under the "Waymarking" pseudonym.

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM8AT_Lodestar_Lightning

Shall we let Ric in on the exact coordinates? Why not.

N 37° 37.557 W 119° 26.999

11S E 283793 N 4167137

For those reilly ... er ... really intriqued you may:

Download this waymark:
.GPX File
.LOC File
.KML File (Google Earth)

In any event, now that the possibility of gunplay has been brought to the fore, isn't it about time that someone asked the question:

Is it possible that some of these drugs smugglers and/or poachers or their heirs, assigns and successors may have had a black hand in the slaying of Tupac?

Take a lode off Fanny, take a lode for free.

Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
May 22, 2014 - 11:13pm PT
Is it possible that some of these drugs smugglers and/or poachers or their heirs, assigns and successors may have had a black hand in the slaying of Tupac?

Not likely.

Tupac was beheaded by the Spanish conquerors of Peru in 1572.

Phillip the second ( king of Spain and Holy Roman Emperor) was pissed that a mere viceroy would murder a fellow monarch without his consent.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2014 - 02:30am PT
<---just got off the phone with Pam, the pilots wife. We are both cracking up with the speculation. Great stuff if you want to write for a Bollywood movie
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 23, 2014 - 10:59am PT
The pilot's wife? I thought there two? Which one was Pilot In Command?
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
May 23, 2014 - 11:06am PT
OK maybe not Tupac, but I have not seen Joe Six-Pack in quite a while either. Come to think of it where is PacMan?


EDIT:

poseur (probably from Ouray)




Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 23, 2014 - 11:10am PT
zBrown, Tupac's problem, and also perhaps the dopers', was that he didn't understand the
niceties of the accelerated stall.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2014 - 12:59am PT
Reilly, there is always only one pilot. The other is the co-pilot. The pilot was married, the co-pilot was not. The pilot was Jon Glisky, his co-pilot was Scott Nelson
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 24, 2014 - 02:22am PT
Licky, when you get your ATP then we can talk flying as relative equals, mkay?
Jeezuz, you have no clue! 'Co-pilot' is a word only used by hack journalists and Hollywood.
Now if you use captain and first officer then you will have some cred.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
May 24, 2014 - 09:56am PT
As they used to say in The Jug Band

"let it hapm, capm"

Things are not always what they seem. Take for instance black holes. Doughnut shaped, right?

In the 1970s, astronomers developed a unified theory that could explain active supermassive black hole observations. The theory arose from the fact that some active black hole emissions could be easily seen by observatories while others seemed obscured by dust. To explain this, astronomers came up with the idea that supermassive black holes must be surrounded by a torus, or ring, of dusty material...

As expected, after surveying 170,000 galaxies containing supermassive black holes at their cores, the WISE observations showed some black holes that could be seen, whereas others appeared obscured (in line with the torus model), but it also revealed a peculiar pattern. When looking at black holes inside massive galaxies that are clumped together as a part of galactic clusters, more supermassive black holes seemed to be obscured.




Read on, my friends.

http://news.discovery.com/space/galaxies/supermassive-black-holes-are-not-doughnuts-140523.htm


Meme Guy

Boulder climber
NC
Jul 7, 2014 - 07:56am PT
Did you write your diary yet licky?
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
Meme....you have us all fooled. No one knows who you are. Keep up the grand posts
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Jul 25, 2014 - 12:18am PT
... there is always only one pilot. The other is the co-pilot.
Is that just calling "shotgun" to sit up front, or was there actually controls on that side?
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Aug 3, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
Just Like Tom Thumb, checking to see if this thread survived the great purge of 2014.

Deadicated to everyone with a heart or ears and Sonny Barger.

Amazing someone could make a living offa something for more than 8 years.

Where's the pickle, Lickle?

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