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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
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This is get'n good
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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This is get'n good
No, it is a pointless troll and just gets more boring.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2014 - 12:34am PT
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I hate to sound like sidmo, but why do you return to the train wreak?
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grover
climber
Northern Mexico
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May 10, 2014 - 01:13am PT
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Almost 9 years to the day since this grand idea started. How can we order said book?
Credit card waiting.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 10, 2014 - 01:19am PT
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Just checking in.
Still a goatf*#k.
Carry on.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2014 - 01:55am PT
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Am currently working on two issues. One is where did the money come from to buy the plane? Two, why did the plane crash?
I have leads on both. No sidmo, I'm not going to tell you what I've found because I don't trust you.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 10, 2014 - 01:58am PT
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I already told you, loss of oil pressure in one of the prop governors so they couldn't feather it =
plane crash + dirtbags get rich.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2014 - 03:44am PT
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Yeah, but what or who caused the loss of pressure? That is the question. Was it just a mechanic that was loosy goosey with the wrench, or was there someone else that had an agenda to down the plane? THAT is where my shift is taking me. So far, I am getting very close. If it appears that it was someone or some organization, then the there is no satutue of limitations on capitol murder. If I can prove what I am working on, the Feds will reopen the case.
This is why sidmo figures into the little pieces. There is so much more to this story than the climbers of C4 made their way up to the lake to rip off a couple of thousand pounds of dope.
I have been looking into this event for all these years to get to the bottom of it. If sidmo WANTS the book to be written now, then hell with him. Just like the two guys that wrote that "they strapped jet engines to the plane"...they wrote junk about the event. It doesn't matter how exciting the post was, it wasn't what happened......Sheesh!
Come on sidmo...lay some more eggs
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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May 10, 2014 - 12:49pm PT
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Funny that when Sidmo posts “I don’t care what you guys think” every time [100+] he has also posted in the past concerning “statute of limitations” a few dozen times as well. Here is his lasted one posted on April 28 2014 9:27:
“Statutes of limitations probably would absolve all concerned of responsibility, but nothing is really clear. The author has chosen not to release any samples”
We found out already he does not write or is not an author of books or articles. He has commented a few times discussing piloting airplanes since he says he is a pilot which I doubt [too stupid].
Then Rick posts
”If I can prove what I am working on, the Feds will reopen the case”. And “This is why sidmo figures into the little pieces”
*make sure Slid you dress right and carry a bible: might help the jury in giving you and your other buddies that you said you can't find to a lesser sentence.
Looks to me Slid you should have never posted one word from the beginning too late now.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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May 10, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
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Does anyone actually read Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzidmo or Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzicky's booooooooring posts?! I can usually only get 3 or 4 words into their first sentence before my eyes glaze over & I wake up in a panic to wipe the drool off my keyboard.
If you skip their posts this is one of the funniest threads of all time with some great stories.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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May 10, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
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Don't let the publish or perish folks get you down Licky.
Easy to demand the finished product when you've never done research or writing. Especially if you investigating criminal activity, you want to be absolutely accurate and above reproach.
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sidmo
Sport climber
general delivery
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May 11, 2014 - 12:52am PT
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OK, Licky - you win - I give up, take all the time you need
You see this as a murder investigation now, who am I to criticize you when you are in pursuit of such a noble goal? I wouldn't stop Kojak from finding the killer, or Columbo, or Sherlock Holmes for that matter. It just wouldn't be right. All this time I though you wanted to really tell us a story, but it seems that this was a revenge plot cooked up by you and your high school pal, and it's not about the book really at all. Sorry it took me so long to "get it" but I'm sure the rest of the chorus here were all in on the true intent. I'm just so stupid, as so many of you have told me so many times. Thanks for your heartfelt insults, I mean insights. Just in case you get suspicious - I never worked fueling airplanes, just busses. So it wasn't me that wrecked the plane, ok? If you ever find the culprit I applaud your efforts. It's intrepid crimefighters like you that make America great. Keep up the good work, and again, take your time.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2014 - 10:26pm PT
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sidmo wants to see flamboyant wordsmith that conjures up images of Hemingway, London, or Long. He is not concerned with accuracy or facts, only to see if I have the ability to write. As I've said many times, I have a full time job and I am not a writer. However, what I am very good at is research, interviews, and dicing out what the FOIA requests provide. So I'll continue my research. Those of you that have met me know why and what I'm doing. Many of you have received my private emails telling you how far I have come and what I've discovered.
sidmo has not had the privilege of reading the behind the lines information, and he never will. Again, I don't trust someone that can't identify himself nor support his claims to have been a writer. Besides, I'm actually saving him. You see, if I thought he was either stealing my data (of course all I post is what is public knowledge) or defaming me on ST, I'd simply hire an attorney, file a suit, subpoena ST for his name and away we'd go. There is plenty of precedence to support that action. That's still a possibility, but I'll wait until I have presented to the Feds what I have uncovered.
sidmo...don't go leave the State as they say.
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sidmo
Sport climber
general delivery
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May 12, 2014 - 11:20pm PT
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Llicky I gave in to you and you come back with the biggest attack on me to date - don't get your shorts all bunched up on this, dude - i'm not guilty of nuthin' as you'll most embarrassingly see if you get all focused on playing cop - you'll alienate your "friends in the law enforcement community" if you start making baseless charges that are not only easily refuted but based on conjecture and motivated by personal animus - lighten up man, I don't hate you - don't waste your time and energy hating me, unless you want to waste your time and energy - it's counterproductive to your goal - now let's stipulate that you are indeed an excellent researcher, I'll take your word on it - I have no reason to not believe that - in fact my criticism of you is that you're in over your head on this book project, and that wouldn't be the case if you didn't have a shytload if data compiled - it's the reason for the difficulty but a good thing, because obviously without it you wouldn't be making progress - and ok, you have a day job that keeps you busy, most of us understand what that's like - stop worrying that I am angling to steal your data or thunder, please take my word that I have zero interest in doing so, and even less time to care to - really, man - I don't want your work, worry about something that actually might happen - I'm just another dweeb in an English department who can string words together but not much else - so what? but you have a book going that might be something really great someday, and I hope it is - I'm one of those geeks who often read a book in a day, but I'd like to pore over yours for a week or so . . . but only AFTER you publish - I wouldn't break in front of you in a line at the village store, and I wouldn't break in your car and steal your 8 track, and I wouldn't steal your data, even if I did want it for my own project - if you think so you're wrong, and if you continue to think so you're paranoid - I proposed a truce before, I'm doing it again now - not because I'm afraid of you , just because this diversion and digression is stupid for both of us - I don't care what the ZBros and Brawnys on the thread think or post, they'll likely see this and attack me because they'll think I'm vulnerable for some reason - they don't matter, and I bet you agree - so, you have a lot of data compiled but you're missing some key components to complete, ok I get that - and you're busy, I believe that too - it's cool, that's a good thing - so go ahead on and take your time, but get it right man - we all want to read this book, and we want it right as much as you . . . well, maybe not quite as much, but who wants to read a lousy book? not me, not Z not chainsaw, not brawny, and not you - I can't imagine proofreading a piece of crap that I wrote and I know you don't want to either - so turn me in if you want, I won't leave the county if you say so - my public defender will get me off because I'm not guilty - I just hate to see you waste time on that crap, write instead - I'll give you one small tip that I tell all writers, something I learned early on that has been invaluable over the years: it sounds crazy but this works - read your composition backwards - not backwards word for word, but sentence by sentence. it's hard to get used to doing, but you'll get the hang of it soon enough - when you proofread prose in the order in which it is to be read by the reader you'll get caught up in the story, even if it's your story - this backwards method allows a close parsing of your text without the complications of story clarity
now laugh hearty all you morons who just love to attack me - you won't get all that but I have a hunch that Mr. Schloss is smarter than all of you put together
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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May 12, 2014 - 11:42pm PT
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One word Sidmo, "periods"
learn how to use them. Break it up into coherent thoughts and people might actually read what you write.
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Synchronicity
Trad climber
British Columbia, Canada
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May 13, 2014 - 12:00am PT
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Textwall?
Scroll....
Scroll....
Scroll....
Edit: BTW I really just wanted to read about how a bunch off dirtbags hit the mother lode, I'd read the book still but with arguably less interest. Maybe I'm biased towards climbing content... Meh
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
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May 13, 2014 - 12:23am PT
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Viva La Huelga!
Ric
Since you sort of addressed the scheduling issue I'll drop 1/2 the boycott.
Why don't you get some help? Also, if you're on a time budget, unless you really enjoy wasting time on this thread, stop wasting time here with that other guy.
It seems very strange to me that after nine years you are addressing the issue of why the plane crashed. Isn't that something that would have "popped" very early in the process?
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2014 - 04:40am PT
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The left wing was found a quarter of a mile from one of the two verticle stabbalizers. When the Rangers flew up to the described location provided by Ron Lykins for the wing, they saw from the air a straight line of tree tops that were sheered off, almost acting like an arrow toward the lake. The verticle stabbilazer was found a quarter of a mile from the lake where the plane rested in sixty feet of water in Lower Merced Pass Lake, upside down in the deepest end.
Why would the plane come in low? It was clearing the Sierras running toward a location in northern Nevada. Remember, the Nevada Air National Guard was located at the Reno airport. This was 1976. The US had pulled out of Viet Nam, but the cold war was still on. Here is a huge plane traveling over 350 miles per hour looking just like a Russian Bear bomber. Glisky and Nelson want to fly below the radar sweep of the Sierra.
Something happens to the left engine. The plane dips low and the left wing catches some trees...............
Ok...I have two issues. One is why did the left engine have problems? It is well documented. And two, who had access to the engine(s) before the run?
I won't write this until I have some cold hard answers, and that's what I'm working on.
Oh yeah, we've linked Billy Carter to the purchase of the plane, but I'm sure that is just little stuff...
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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May 18, 2014 - 12:21pm PT
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One word Sidmo, "periods"
learn how to use them. Break it up into coherent thoughts and people might actually read what you write.
Lol
The English department dweeb feels it is ok to use Hyphens instead.
The writing is interesting. I've been musing on how one "pores" over a book.
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