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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Feb 10, 2016 - 11:12am PT
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It was a joke based on a meme that has been posted here many times. Sorry if it was too subtle.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 10, 2016 - 11:13am PT
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Carrying guns is not illegal for most people. But, carrying them while you take over federal buildings, state that you'll be there for years, ask for others with guns to show up, rename said federal buildings, use federal computers, vehicles and heavy equipment, take down fences, ignore the community request to leave, etc. All this combined is elevated by the fact that the protesters were armed and stating they would "defend themselves." Maybe I'm just tripping again, but that's the way it appears to this layman.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Feb 10, 2016 - 12:37pm PT
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Oh come on, it reached that long ago....
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Feb 10, 2016 - 12:45pm PT
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The important thing is that much Bonanza was had.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2016 - 03:16pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 10, 2016 - 03:42pm PT
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Have one on the folks from Coronado (if it's your brand).
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Feb 10, 2016 - 04:47pm PT
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If the threat of violence is enough to qualify the oregon idiots as terrorists then fine. But trying to claim that the fact they carried guns makes them terrorists could easily be viewed as a rationalization meant to support your position.
a general definition of terrorism is use of violence or threat of violence in the furtherance of political or religious gains. I believe what the yeehawdists are doing qualifies
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 10, 2016 - 04:58pm PT
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Definition of Terrorism(Domestic):
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
I suppose one could argue that the Malheur Militia people didn't perform acts dangerous to human life.... but it would be a fairly weak argument, and I would suggest they owe it to the government for not putting them in the position to show what their intentions actually were, should it have come down to defending their "fort."
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Feb 10, 2016 - 05:31pm PT
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(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
That appears to describe pretty much our entire legislative and executive branch to a tee...
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Feb 10, 2016 - 05:39pm PT
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Hi, Lois. Missed you.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Feb 10, 2016 - 06:29pm PT
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Escopeta: Except that the legislation was enacted by the elected representatives of a democracy instead of a bunch of heavily armed thugs.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Feb 10, 2016 - 06:34pm PT
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Hi, Lois. Missed you.
OLR
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 10, 2016 - 06:47pm PT
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Lois was many things, but I don't think she'd throw around the word 'retarded' (or derivatives of it) like this poster has.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
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it is going down live, FBI is moving in, Fiore is making it worse, Greasy Dave wants to surrender to Franklin Graham and Cliven Bundy
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 10, 2016 - 10:19pm PT
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They say they're surrendering in the morning as long as assemblywoman, reverend Graham, and the media are present.
That would be a little different than the earlier demands that everyone involved go free, including Ammon and the Keystone Kowboys.
They're so inconsistent, sheesh....
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Feb 10, 2016 - 11:09pm PT
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KATU reports he was booked at the Multnomah county jail on a previous warrant stemming from 2014. The same conspiracy to interfere with federal officer charge Ammon is facing.
He was booked by a sherrif, who he says is the ultimate authority.
A Bundy reunion.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Feb 10, 2016 - 11:37pm PT
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MCDC is the downtown detention center next to the Federal courthouse, not the jail out by the airport.
Must be so they can take him right to court in the morning.
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maxdacat
Trad climber
Sydney, Australia
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Feb 11, 2016 - 01:22am PT
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From the Guardian:
AngryCymraeg 24m ago
Did they finally run out of snacks and dildos?
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Lol :0
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