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Gary
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From A Buick 6
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May 12, 2015 - 01:57pm PT
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This is getting pathetic. Does anyone still believe this guy's line of bullshit from the Martin case?
Law enforcement officials recovered a handgun that is believed to be George Zimmerman's after he was involved in a shooting Monday, the latest in a rash of incidents since he was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin.
On Monday, a confrontation took place in Lake Mary, Fla., between Zimmerman and Matthew Apperson, who reported the shooting to 911. Officials with the Lake Mary Police Department have said Zimmerman was not the shooter.
Law enforcement officials obtained a warrant for Apperson's vehicle, from which they recovered a .40-caliber Glock 22 and a .357 revolver with one spent shell casing, authorities said. Both guns are Apperson's. A third handgun, a Glock, that police believe is Zimmerman's was also recovered from the vehicle.
Officers have yet to obtain a search warrant for Zimmerman's vehicle.
In September, Apperson had a confrontation with Zimmerman during what police said was a road rage incident. No charges were involved.
Investigators have not determined how or why the latest confrontation took place, Lake Mary Police Officer Bianca Gillett said Monday.
Attorney Don West, who represents Zimmerman, told the Associated Press that a bullet missed Zimmerman's head. Zimmerman was sprayed with glass from his vehicle's windshield and other debris, said the lawyer, who added that his client was treated and released from a hospital.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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May 12, 2015 - 02:08pm PT
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Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Wouldn't suprise me one bit if he ends up on the wrong end of a shoot out someday.
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Barbarian
climber
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May 12, 2015 - 03:58pm PT
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Just a small withdrawal from the Bank of Bad Karma...I'm sure he will make others...his account is very full.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 12, 2015 - 04:20pm PT
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Bob Ford wannabe.
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son of stan
Boulder climber
San Jose CA
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May 12, 2015 - 04:40pm PT
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How did Zim's glock wind up in the other guys car?
Probably a typo. Serious typo. News stories are written by morons so often these days.
This guy is stalking Zim obviously. Did he burgle Zim's car and take
a gun?
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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May 12, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
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This is getting pathetic. Does anyone still believe this guy's line of bullshit from the Martin case?
Remember he did not testify in the Martin case--that case wasn't really as much about his "bullshit" as it was about a fight where no one really saw who threw the first punch or who was beating who up before the fatal shot (although there's no doubt that Martin injured Zimm)--just too much uncertainty to find Zimm guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Also keep in mind that Martin's family never filed a civil suit against Zimm, which strongly suggests that it wasn't only the high "beyond a reasonable doubt" burden of proof that protected Zimm. Rather, the family must have been advised that there was a negative expectation to any lawsuit--they likely wouldn't be able to prove fault even with a preponderance of the evidence burden of proof, and there was a significant risk that Martin's family would be required to pay Zimm's legal fees.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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May 12, 2015 - 05:34pm PT
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blahblah, I hear what you're saying, technically the jury returned the correct verdict. Still the question remains, does anyone till support this nutjob?
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couchmaster
climber
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May 19, 2016 - 09:51am PT
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It's an interested and disturbing read, for a librul too I'd bet:
" Why George Zimmerman won't vote for Hillary
Posted By Jack Cashill On 05/18/2016 @ 7:19 pm
Like just about every other person on the left – save for attorney Alan Dershowitz – Hillary Clinton has actively embraced the falsehoods surrounding the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin.
Not surprisingly, the living symbol of those fictions, Martin’s birth mother, Sybrina Fulton, has endorsed Hillary. “Sybrina, you and all mothers of gun violence victims have taught us hate will never win,” Hillary tweeted last week. “Thinking of you today.”
For the last four years, George Zimmerman has struggled under the weight of this agitprop and is openly hostile to those, like Clinton, who profit from it.
This week the Daily Beast interviewed Zimmerman in no small part to understand his aversion to Clinton. Those of us who know the case – I wrote a book on the subject, “If I Had a Son” – came away thinking that Zimmerman was the only honest person in that interview room.
True to form on the left, four years after the shooting, well after all the evidence was revealed, the Daily Beast insisted on repeating as fact all the fictions the media spun in the first month after Martin’s death.
Zimmerman, a “wannabe cop” in a “gated community” had “a fascination with police officers and laudatory praise for all they do.” His suspicion of Martin was “only based upon the fact that Martin was black, male, and wearing a hooded sweatshirt.”
Zimmerman followed Martin even after the dispatcher told him not to. They got into an “altercation.” Zimmerman was “not anywhere close to death.” The killing was “senseless.”
This is all grotesquely wrong. In 2012, Zimmerman was an Obama supporter and a civil rights activist. The year before he personally led the crusade to bring justice to Sherman Ware, a black homeless man sucker punched by the son of a white police lieutenant in Sanford, Florida.
At a public meeting in January 2011, Zimmerman took the floor and said, “I would just like to state that the law is written in black and white. It should not and cannot be enforced in the gray for those that are in the thin blue line.”
This meeting was recorded on video. As a result of the publicity, the police chief, whom Zimmerman blasted for his “illegal cover-up and corruption,” was forced to resign.
The left wiped this history from the record even before Zimmerman went to trial. In perhaps the most shameful collective swath of misreporting in the history of American journalism, they corrupted just about every other bit of evidence as well.
Jack Cashill’s latest book illustrates how the neo-Puritan progressive movement came to mimic a religion in its structure but not at all in its spirit — order “Scarlet Letters: The Ever-Increasing Intolerance of the Cult of Liberalism”
No, Zimmerman did not follow Martin because he was black but because he was peering into windows in the rain in a community that was reeling from burglaries and home invasions.
When the dispatcher told Zimmerman to stop following Martin, he did stop. Martin circled back to confront Zimmerman. An aspiring mixed martial artist nearly half-a-foot taller, he sucker punched the unsuspecting neighborhood watch captain, knocked him down and jumped on top of him.
“It was a black man with a black hoodie on top of the other,” the one good eyewitness told the cops immediately after the incident. “I tried to tell them, get out of here, you know, stop or whatever, and then one guy on top in the black hoodie was pretty much just throwing down blows on the guy kind of MMA-style.”
In the only other book written on the case, “Suspicion Nation,” NBC reporter Lisa Bloom did not report either Zimmerman’s involvement in the Sherman Ware case or the crucial testimony of the best eyewitness to Martin’s attack on Zimmerman. That is how corrupt the media have become.
With the exception of those at Fox News, reporters and producers from every major network actively conspired to send an innocent man to prison for the rest of his life.
This lethal media narrative spawned the Black Lives Matter movement. From the beginning its advocates hewed to this narrative and insisted that politicians do too. Hillary Clinton has obliged them.
Fulton, in fact, has endorsed Clinton. Hillary has appeared at various campaign events with her and will speak at a three-day confab in Fort Lauderdale hosted by the Trayvon Martin Foundation this month.
George Zimmerman knows better than anyone just how false and dangerous is the alliance between the BLM and the Democratic Party, and he is not afraid to attack its symbols.
“Sybrina Fulton and [father] Tracy Martin did everything they could to capitalize on her son’s death,” Zimmerman told the Daily Beast.
“She was never a mother figure to him. Tracy Martin couldn’t have cared less about their son. He treated him like a dog without a leash.”
Although a little harsh, Zimmerman’s assessment is much closer to the truth about Martin’s parents than the one Hillary has chosen to believe.
Martin’s parents split when he was 3. His stepmother raised him until he was 15 when his father, Tracy Martin, abandoned her, too, for still another women.
From 15 until his death at 17, Martin drifted all but unwatched into a life of drugs, fighting, burglary and even guns. In one fateful minute, Zimmerman learned more about the real Trayvon Martin than his parents knew or that the media would ever care to know.
If the Trayvon Martin case were anomalous, it would not be so dangerous – but Martin’s biography reads scarily like that of every other “victim” BLM celebrates, Ferguson’s Michael Brown most obviously.
Rather than address the crippling problems in black culture, leftists like Clinton condemn Zimmerman for his failure to accept their assessment of him – in the words of the Daily Beast – as “one of the 21st century’s greatest villains.”
The outspoken Zimmerman would have preferred to live his life “like a normal person,” he told the Daily Beast. “However, I’m not afforded that luxury anymore. You guys. The media. The masses. The Fulton-Martin family. They took that from me.”"
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 19, 2016 - 10:00am PT
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Awww, poor George the little victim. {*sniffle*}
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 19, 2016 - 11:47am PT
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Teenager kicks his ass and he pulls a gun. Pussy, imo.
Are you serious, Jeremy?
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John M
climber
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May 19, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
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thanks couch master... that certainly reads a lot differently then the media portrayal of him. And if he really did back off when told to by the dispatch, then that changes the story quite a bit.
at this point it is so hard to figure out the truth.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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May 19, 2016 - 12:24pm PT
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Great article, lol, it tells us everything we heard is unsubstantiated lies, then goes on the state a bunch of unsubstantiated "facts" straight from Zimmerman.
We don't know what happened that night, but Zimmerman by his own words has said things that identify him as someone I wouldn't trust in the least. And he's had a number of other legal problems.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 19, 2016 - 12:40pm PT
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Whatever happened, it's pretty clear that George the victim went out looking for trouble that night.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 19, 2016 - 12:46pm PT
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I think he picked a fight and was getting his ass kicked so pulled his gun. IMO, that's weak.
If that's what actually happened, then I agree it's weak.
The problem is that we won't ever know what really happened. Our nation is getting pretty polarized over an increasing spectrum of incidents that amount to pure speculation about what really happened. Opinions (and media fluff) are taken as fact, and then people draw and argue about strong conclusions drawn from contradictory "evidence" that bears little if any relation to the facts (about which, in most cases, we can know virtually nothing).
Such is the case with Martin/Zimmerman, imo. Lots of media attention and strong reactions; precious little actual facts.
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John M
climber
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May 19, 2016 - 12:46pm PT
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certainly zimmerman is not a sympathetic person. He reads to me like a person with anger issues, plus an authority issue.
my point was simply that the media portrayal of this being a black and white case of someone stalking a black person just because he is black doesn't stand up to some of the things that can be proven as fact, such as zimmerman defending publicly a black man agains the police. That happened. There are tapes of it. Plus he had a black business partner.
the mainstream media portrayed him as a far right gun nut who hated blacks. And squashed anything that portrayed him differently.
this is the problem with trying cases in public.
And I am not defending Zimmerman.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 19, 2016 - 04:40pm PT
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Thank you, Jeremy. I appreciate your graciousness.
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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May 19, 2016 - 04:48pm PT
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F'n scumbag attention whore.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 17, 2016 - 11:40am PT
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Apparently, you're not allowed to stand your ground in Florida while in motion.
SANFORD — The Seminole County man convicted of shooting at George Zimmerman as the two drove down Lake Mary Boulevard in separate vehicles was sentenced today to 20 years in prison.
A Seminole County jury found 37-year-old Matthew Apperson guilty last month of attempted second-degree murder, armed aggravated assault and shooting into a vehicle.
This morning Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson handed down the state-mandated minimum: 20 years for shooting at another person with a gun.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/os-matthew-apperson-sentence-20161014-story.html
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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Oct 17, 2016 - 04:25pm PT
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Apparently, you're not allowed to stand your ground in Florida while in motion.
Hypothetical - in an RV one might actually be able to stand... an argument could be made that this changes things. Also, would it matter if belligerents are in the same RV vs. two separate RVs? One would think it might.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:35pm PT
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So if that guy had been a midget and standing on the seat when he shot at Zimmerman, he'd be good under Florida law? Good point ...oopsie.
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