Why Are Republicans WRONG about EVERYTHING?

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JEleazarian

Trad climber

Fresno CA

Mar 12, 2015 - 01:16pm PT

Wow. Look at this old white guy lament the loss of an oppressive age of a world that is literally leaving him behind.

You just made my point.

John

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Mar 12, 2015 - 01:20pm PT

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber

Mar 12, 2015 - 01:25pm PT

Man don't you guys miss when we could just nuke the sh#t out of a country after firebombing 300,000 civilians and then dictate our values to them? I don't think Obama shares these kind of western values.

Your point, John, was that the old way was the "right" way. The world has learned that it wasn't and that your view of "western values" actually isn't. Your way is literally what got us into this mess in the first place. I personally won't be shedding any tears.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Mar 12, 2015 - 01:29pm PT

"...a lack of faith in any particular principle of what we used to call western civilization. "

Personally, my own view of 'western civilization' is one where carnage and catastrophic destruction of anything is avoided at all costs. You know....civilized.

JEleazarian

Trad climber

Fresno CA

Mar 12, 2015 - 01:56pm PT

Dave, I'm asking what the administration's policy is. If we can't discern it, neither can the rest of the world.

As for what I would do in Ukraine, I'd at least respond positively to their request for armaments. They weren't asking for troops, they were asking for bullets. I would also have given Poland the weapons it desired.

I'll also admit that I've criticized every administration since G.H.W. Bush for its non-assistance of the Russian Federation. I felt during the Yeltsin presidency that Russia had its equivalent of the Weimar Republic, and would end up with a fascist government. The kleptocrats currently in charge of the Kremlin have pretty much been exactly what I expected to see.

John

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Mar 12, 2015 - 04:53pm PT

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Mar 12, 2015 - 04:54pm PT

I hope you wiped off your keyboard after your little Hillary sesh, TGT.

climbski2

Mountain climber

Anchorage AK, Reno NV

Mar 12, 2015 - 04:55pm PT

I'm curious what armaments we could give Ukraine that would allow them to beat the Russians militarily? Right now the Russians have barely lifted their pinky finger of available might and the Ukrainians are pretty ineffective against even that.

I see almost no likely solution to the eventual annexation of all of Ukraine. If there is a solution in favor of Ukraine I doubt it has much if any military component.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Mar 12, 2015 - 05:28pm PT

http://www.scribd.com/doc/258526868/Letter-to-Obama-from-Iranian-Prisoner-of-Conscience

Norton

Social climber

quitcherbellyachin

Mar 12, 2015 - 05:40pm PT

Well TGT,

it must be awful for you, living during one of the most successful Presidency's in history....

gas prices cut in half, roaring stock market, economy creating millions of jobs......

and to think he is only half white, so hard for you to take, eh bunky?

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Mar 12, 2015 - 08:14pm PT

Tom Cotton, the Senator who spearheaded the letter to Iran got $1 million from Bill Kristol’s ‘Emergency C’tee for Israel’

US Politics
Philip Weiss on March 10, 2015

The U.S. media have been sadly incurious about the origins of yesterday’s unprecedented Open Letter of 47 Republicans to the Iranian leadership seeking to block the president’s likely deal with Iran. The press has portrayed the letter as the work of Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton, a 37-year-old freshman senator so new to the limelight that the New York Times got his name wrong on first impression. But as a Times commenter writes, “Does anyone really believe the ‘freshman senator from Arkansas’ wrote the letter? No.”

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/israel-fingerprints-republican#sthash.CPXuSMwA.dpuf

Gary

Social climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Mar 12, 2015 - 08:33pm PT

As for what I would do in Ukraine, I'd at least respond positively to their request for armaments. They weren't asking for troops, they were asking for bullets.

Perhaps the first thing Ukraine should do is stop selling tanks to the Russians!
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-06-03/why-some-ukrainian-defense-contractors-are-still-doing-business-with-russia

Wade Icey

Trad climber

www.alohashirtrescue.com

Mar 12, 2015 - 11:06pm PT

Spudboy sounds pretty open-minded. Have you met Sketch?

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Mar 12, 2015 - 11:07pm PT

"And of course WB. "

lulz

dirtbag

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2015 - 07:59am PT

Talk about a dysfunctional congress!

We really don’t have 218 votes to determine a bathroom break over here on our side. So how are we going to get 218 votes on transportation, or trade, or whatever the issue?”

-GOP Congressman Charlie Dent

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Mar 13, 2015 - 08:18am PT

Fuking Morons. Sooo narrow minded. Surprising for "climbers". This thread is priceless....if one is bored and hunting for Sheeple.

Spud

We could say the same about you

You told us that you were a Political Science Teacher, and you had your class read this thread for entertainment.

Then you said you were an engineer, and now you're working graveyard....'

what is the truth here??

It's very apparent that you know very little about anything political, other than BS talking points..

But what's glaring, is your rash of insults in every post.
You want a debate, be civil.

No one will debate someone that says we are all stupid and don't know what we are talking about, when some of us actually DO know what we are talking about.

We research this stuff

Calling the Dems and Repubs all the same is just another way to say you are ignorant of our political system.

There is media pressure to make people think that very thing, and you know what it does? It cause voter apathy, and the Repubs win.
It has worked very well for them.

The Parties are not the same.

If you think Obama has been a failure, then you are saying that a Repub would have been a better President.
We can predict how that would be, war with Iran, more National Debt, full on war with ISIS, huge loses of personal liberties and protections, while the rich get richer and the Corporations reap more protections and profits.

Conservatives have never helped the middle class, they just don't care.
Voting for Republicans is voting against your best interest, it makes you a contributor to the problems you complain about.

WBraun

climber

Mar 13, 2015 - 08:27am PT

We research this stuff

Hahahaha lol

From your main slime media outlets who all report the same distorted watered down always incomplete news, who always censor the sensitive news that leads to the real truth and with outright lies built in.

Bend over and take it up the a*# is the is your wonderful media US news that is censored and distorted to the hilt.

Good job American sheeple.

Keep on drooling .....

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

Mar 13, 2015 - 08:34am PT

So every news source is corrupt?
Not a single fact is available, it's all been filtered and changed by the magical illuminati?
It's all propaganda created for the sheeple to feed on to keep us stupid?

Wow
What a demented world view.

I wonder how WB get's his info?
INFOWARS.com ?

or through a psychic connection to God's knowledge bank in the sky?
or through his own self delusion = listening to the ground.