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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:14pm PT
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George Zimmerman to ask for $200,000 from Florida for court costs
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/26/justice/george-zimmerman-court-costs/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Don't know if this request probably will or won't be granted; you never really hear about criminal defendants recouping costs, but perhaps this is an aspect of Stand Your Ground.
If so, this seems like a good idea--about time the government gets held at least a little bit accountable when is decides to f*#k with peoples' lives to score political points.
After all, Florida's case was so weak that the the libs are now claiming that it threw the case (regardless of whether that's true, it shows the entire thing was a farce and a fraud).
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
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Maybe Zimmerman will learn not to f*#k with peoples lives by carrying a gun while on neighborhood watch.
The homeowners association had to settle with the Martin family over this issue.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
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Maybe Zimmerman has learned why it's not advisable to carry a gun while on neighborhood watch.
The homeowners association had to settle with the Martin family over this issue.
Maybe, although it's interesting that the Martin family apparently hasn't sued Zimmerman and that the HOA didn't try a subrogation claim against him.
Could be a reflection that insurance companies (I assume the HOA had an insurance policy--I believe that virtually all of them do, and I know that purchasing insurance is required bylaws of my HOA) settle claims for economic reasons that don't perfectly track likely legal liability.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Zimmerman's wife won't press charges despite call
http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20130909/c7a4bd0e-e581-40b6-8010-f0a252bc17c9
LAKE MARY, Fla. (AP) — The sobbing wife of George Zimmerman called 911 Monday to report that her estranged husband was threatening her with a gun and had punched her father in the nose, but hours later decided not to press charges against the man acquitted of all charges for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin.
Lake Mary police officers were still investigating the encounter as a domestic dispute, but no charges had been filed Monday afternoon. Shellie Zimmerman left the house after being questioned by police. George Zimmerman remained there into early evening and his attorney denied any wrongdoing by his client. He was not arrested.
On the 911 call, Shellie Zimmerman is sobbing and repeating "Oh my God" as she talks to a police dispatcher. She yells at her father to get inside the house, saying Zimmerman may start shooting at them.
"He's threatening all of us with a firearm ... He punched my dad in the nose," Shellie Zimmerman said on the call. "I don't know what he's capable of. I'm really scared."
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Just peckerwoods being peckerwoods. She's lucky he didn't shoot. He must've felt threatened.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
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deja vu
Lake Mary police officers were still investigating the encounter as a domestic dispute, but no charges had been filed Monday afternoon. Shellie Zimmerman left the house after being questioned by police. George Zimmerman remained there into early evening and his attorney denied any wrongdoing by his client. He was not arrested.
What are you wearing Shellie?
A hoodie?
Sounds like a situation for eKat. I'll chip in for plane tickets.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 14, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
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It's true! They find the most hysterical, sensationalist broadcasts/articles they can find that reinforce the worldview of their audience and then re-headline them in a manner that redoubles the hysteria!
You criticize this source, but how does it differ than the MSM? This source is picking up the MSM's slack.
Some stories are better than others...
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 15, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
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No cops to respond since they got laid off after the Republican congress cut off their funds.
Nice. Thanks, GOP!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 20, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
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Police are State and County funded, not Federal. Nice try though, Gary.
Dipshit!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 20, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
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Seems entirely reasonable to me. If someone is forceably entering my house or car I'm gonna be afraid for my life. If I had a gun, I wouldn't think twice about it. If I am elsewhere and someone attacks me, I'm gonna be afraid in that situation, too. People need to act civilly to one another. Breaking into my place or attacking me when I'm out isn't civil behavior. It's hostile aggression, plain and simple. The consequences become their problem. What wrong with that?
Absolutely nothing. It's self-defense.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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In more "there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's self defense" news:
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/standing_your_ground_black_woman_shot_in_head_seeking_help_in_a_white_neighborhood/
**Standing your ground? Black woman shot in head seeking help in white neighborhood
The family of Renisha McBride, 19, seeks answers after she was shot in the head and the shooter may avoid charges**
“You see a young black lady on your porch and you shoot?” demanded Bernita Sparks, the aunt of slain Detroit 19-year-old Renisha McBride. McBride was shot in the head and killed when, according to her family, she was seeking help, knocking on doors in a white neighborhood after her car crashed.
McBride’s family is asking prosecutors for information on the incident that left the unarmed young woman dead. Scant details have been provided. As the Detroit News reported “Dearborn Heights [Police Department has] identified the person who fired the shot and killed the woman.” However, police have claimed that the shooter believed McBride to be an intruder and shot in self-defense. Initial police reports that described the 19-year-old’s body as having been “dumped” have been amended to state that she was found on the shooter’s porch.
Self-defense gone wrong is not a sufficient excuse for a bullet in the head, McBride’s family has stressed. “He shot her in the head … for what? For knocking on his door,” said Spinks. “If he felt scared or threatened, he should have called 911.”
Police have now asked that charges be brought against the shooter. But since a “stand your ground” law applies in Michigan, the charges may not stick. As Rania Khalek has rightly pointed out on her blog, “The problem with a law like Stand Your Ground is that it excuses and encourages deadly force against ‘perceived’ threats. In the United States, where implicit and structural racism persists on a vast scale, is it wise to empower people who almost certainly have irrational and racist fears.”
And as Khalek notes in the case of McBride’s shooting, “She is after all a black woman from Detroit, which is 82 percent black, whereas Dearborn Heights, the area she was shot in, is 86 percent white … Regardless of your position on Stand Your Ground, one thing is for sure. The family of 19-year-old Renisha McBride deserves answers.”
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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bluering wrote:
Police are State and County funded, not Federal. Nice try though, Gary.
Dipshit!
Hahaha!
Because the number of deputies at Josephine County's Sheriff's Department had been cut following the expiration of the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act - a multimillion- dollar annual federal aid payment for timber-producing counties – the remaining officers were only available 8am to 4pm Monday through Friday. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022888567
Because the number of deputies at Josephine County’s Sheriff’s Department had been cut following the expiration of the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act – a multimillion- dollar annual federal aid payment for timber-producing counties – the remaining officers were only available 8am to 4pm Monday through Friday. http://shot97.com/2013/05/lady-raped-as-officers-off-duty/
The levy defeat and subsequent dismantling of the sheriff's office, district attorney's staff and juvenile justice program have put Josephine County in a harsh light. Longtime residents say it exposed an anti-government negativity in a place victimized by economic factors it can't control. For decades, Josephine and other Oregon timber counties relied on millions in federal timber sales to pay for sheriff's deputies, jails, roads, prosecutors, health clinics and other services. It seemed a fair deal. Federal land makes up 60 percent of the landbase in some counties, but isn't subject to property taxes. So the feds shared harvest revenue with the counties. They were bound tight. In Josephine County, the shoulder patch on sheriff's uniforms features a loaded log truck. But the near shut-down of logging on federal forests cost the counties dearly. Congress in 2000 approved a payment program to replace the timber money, and extended it twice, but it ended this past year. A proposal to extend the payments once again is stalled in a deadlocked Congress, leaving 33 Oregon counties with combined revenue losses of $215 million annually.
http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2012/06/josephine_county_releases_39_p.html
Last year, the Josephine County sheriff’s department lost a multi-million dollar federal subsidy for timber dependent counties. http://www.opb.org/news/article/josephine-county-tax-levy-would-add-deputies-fund-the-jail/
Hey, bluering! Who's the dipsh#t?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 11, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
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Um, by definition, County and State LEO is funded by such, not Federal money. Try to find a credible source too.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 12, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
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bluering, there is none so blind as he who will not see.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Nov 18, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
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Zimmerman's in the news again. Nothing good--allegedly pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend and caused some other mischief.
Assuming he did more-or-less that he's charged with, I suppose we could see this in two ways:
1. He in fact is a violent whack job who likely got away with murder (or manslaughter), or
2. He was so stressed out from the trial (which probably never should have happened--as virtually all the commentators agreed that the state fell woefully short of proving its case) that he's now "acting out," and he's really another victim here.
Or some combination of 1 and 2.
I may be leaning a little toward 1--I'd have thought he'd have learned a lesson and would be careful how he handles a gun, even if the TM case was a bit of a political farce.
Reminds me a little of OJ getting busted for kidnapping -- you think people would be extra careful after getting off on a serious charge, but not these guys.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 18, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
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2. He was so stressed out from the trial (which probably never should have happened--as virtually all the commentators agreed that the state fell woefully short of proving its case) that he's now "acting out," and he's really another victim here.
Yep. This is all Trayvon's fault.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 20, 2013 - 12:09am PT
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