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TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Jan 2, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
A Japanese Senator with the Liberal Democratic Party stated on background, "TEPCO's involvement with anti-social forces and their inability to filter them out of the work-place is a national security issue. It is one reason that increasingly in the Diet we are talking de facto nationalization of the company. Nuclear energy shouldn't be in the hands of the yakuza. They're gamblers and an intelligent person doesn't want them to have atomic dice to play with."
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jan 2, 2012 - 07:27pm PT
Dicey situation in that spent fuel pool as one wall of that building was already falling on it's own before any earthquake. Got kind of a bad feeling about it, hope I'm wrong

I actually flew out of Tokyo 2.5 hours before the Earthquake hit. Said a little prayer for Fukashima as the plane climbed and left Japan for Thailand

Peace

Karl
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Jan 6, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
Dash Cam tsunami video. Car floats away into swirling chaos. Driver survives by staying inside vehicle and riding it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdGfplrbKU&feature=youtu.be

corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Feb 2, 2012 - 02:14am PT
Nuclear fallout related.

Time-Lapse World Map showing Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945

(a ding sounds as each bomb goes off. Bigger bombs get louder dings.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY
morphus

Mountain climber
Angleland
Feb 2, 2012 - 09:39am PT
has this one been posted yet?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd3_1327789981
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 9, 2012 - 01:37am PT
Before and after shots...

http://framework.latimes.com/2012/03/08/before-and-after-japan-tsunami-cleanup/#/0
BooYah

Social climber
Ely, Nv
Mar 9, 2012 - 01:41am PT
Our "World" is built upon shakey sticks on top of a House of Cards.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Mar 9, 2012 - 06:46am PT
Newly released Japanese cabinet minutes reveal that the cabinet was concerned
about a meltdown within an hour of the tsunami but it took them a month to
admit that it probably happened.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Mar 11, 2012 - 12:59am PT
The sirens just went off here to announce the beginning of a minute of silence
for all the victims.Tonight thousands of paper lanterns with candles will be sent down
the rivers and out to sea, to console the spirits of the dead.

The sky is gray and its raining which seems appropriate weather for the day.
splitter

Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
Mar 11, 2012 - 01:28am PT
Wow, somber moment/anniversary of rememberance indeed!
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Mar 11, 2012 - 01:45am PT
Yes very somber. The US west coast is next.
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Grant our brothers and sisters in Japan, O Lord, a steady hand and watchful eye. Please let the beauty of your Earth return to Japan and lead all of her children back into safety.
Amen.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 11, 2012 - 05:33am PT
hey there say, jan.... oh my, i just saw this...


as to your quote:

The sirens just went off here to announce the beginning of a minute of silence
for all the victims.Tonight thousands of paper lanterns with candles will be sent down
the rivers and out to sea, to console the spirits of the dead.

The sky is gray and its raining which seems appropriate weather for the day.
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Mar 26, 2012 - 02:37am PT
http://news.yahoo.com/japan-down-one-nuclear-reactor-shutdown-043121632.html

Japan has been left with only one working nuclear reactor after Tokyo Electric Power Co. shuttered its final generator for scheduled safety checks.

The vast utility's entire stock of 17 reactors are now idle, including three units that suffered a meltdown when the tsunami hit Fukushima, as Japan warily eyes a spike in electricity demand over the hot and humid summer.

Only one of Japan's 54 units -- in northernmost Hokkaido -- is still working, and that is scheduled to be shut down for maintenance work in May.

The No. 6 unit at Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO)'s Kashiwazaki-Kariwa plant "stopped generating electricity at 23:59 Sunday, and its reactor was suspended at 1:46 Monday," TEPCO spokesman Osamu Yokokura told AFP.

The No. 6 unit is expected to undergo checks for several months, "but it depends on the result of checks and if we find some defects it may take more time to fix them," Yokokura said.

Japan's formerly-trusted nuclear power industry lost public confidence when the tsunami of last March knocked out cooling systems at Fukushima, sending three reactors into meltdowns.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 26, 2012 - 03:03am PT
Was just today at a bake sale held here in Portland by our friend Kurumi and others from Fukushima Perfecture. They've been raising money to buy pairs of radiation monitors / pressure washers for villages around Koriyama City where many families have been unable to leave and need help and guidance to identify hotspots and to clean up their homes and properties to the degree possible.
splitter

Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
Mar 26, 2012 - 03:34am PT
^^^Fukushima ghost ship!^^^

edit: Yea, I know. I just meant that it would look like a ghost ship if you encountered it slowly appearing/drifting out of the fog somewhere in the middle of the Pacific...Yikes!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 26, 2012 - 11:07am PT
Hmmm, when I kayaked the west coast of Vancouver Island in '75 I don't recall
that the Japanese government asked for the return of the garbage dumped by
their huge fishing fleet offshore. I particularly recall the many empty plastic
oil containers and the 2 litre glass sake bottles that were able to survive
their rocky landings.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Mar 26, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
I can't decide if this NHK report is good or bad?

Tokyo Electric Power Company says it has found that the cooling water in one of the damaged reactors at Fukushima is only 60 centimeters deep, far lower than previously thought.

The utility confirmed the water level by inserting an endoscope into the No.2 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant on Monday.



TEPCO had thought that the water level was about 3 meters. It has been injecting nearly 9 tons of water per hour into the reactor to cool the melted fuel that has fallen to the bottom of the containment vessel.

But the shallow level indicates that the water continues to leak into the reactor building through the suppression chambers under the vessel.



The utility argues that the fuel is still being cooled, as the water temperature remains at around 48 degrees Celsius.

But the low level suggests that decommissioning the reactor could be much more difficult. The operator may need to repair more parts of the containment vessel so it can be filled with water to block the strong radiation.

The No. 2 reactor's containment vessel is believed to have been damaged on March 15th with the sudden loss of pressure inside the reactor.



Monday's survey was the second look inside the No.2 reactor since January. During the first survey, an endoscope was unable to confirm the water level in the containment vessel. This time, TEPCO used a scope that is 10 meters longer.

Monday, March 26, 2012 21:40 +0900 (JST)
Bargainhunter

climber
May 27, 2012 - 02:33am PT
from the NY Times today

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/world/asia/concerns-grow-about-spent-fuel-rods-at-damaged-nuclear-plant-in-japan.html?_r=1&hpw

"May 26, 2012
Spent Fuel Rods Drive Growing Fear Over Plant in Japan
By HIROKO TABUCHI and MATTHEW L. WALD
TOKYO — What passes for normal at the Fukushima Daiichi plant today would have caused shudders among even the most sanguine of experts before an earthquake and tsunami set off the world’s second most serious nuclear crisis after Chernobyl.

Fourteen months after the accident, a pool brimming with used fuel rods and filled with vast quantities of radioactive cesium still sits on the top floor of a heavily damaged reactor building, covered only with plastic.

The public’s fears about the pool have grown in recent months as some scientists have warned that it has the most potential for setting off a new catastrophe, now that the three nuclear reactors that suffered meltdowns are in a more stable state, and as frequent quakes continue to rattle the region.

The worries picked up new traction in recent days after the operator of the plant, Tokyo Electric Power Company, or Tepco, said it had found a slight bulge in one of the walls of the reactor building, stoking fears over the building’s safety.

To try to quell such worries, the government sent the environment and nuclear minister to the plant on Saturday, where he climbed a makeshift staircase in protective garb to look at the structure supporting the pool, which he said appeared sound. The minister, Goshi Hosono, added that although the government accepted Tepco’s assurances that reinforcement work had shored up the building, it ordered the company to conduct further studies because of the bulge.

Some outside experts have also worked to allay fears, saying that the fuel in the pool is now so old that it cannot generate enough heat to start the kind of accident that would allow radioactive material to escape.

But many Japanese scoff at those assurances and point out that even if the building is strong enough, which they question, the jury-rigged cooling system for the pool has already malfunctioned several times, including a 24-hour failure in April. Had the outages continued, they would have left the rods at risk of dangerous overheating. Government critics are especially concerned, since Tepco has said the soonest it could begin emptying the pool is late 2013, dashing hopes for earlier action.

“The No. 4 reactor is visibly damaged and in a fragile state, down to the floor that holds the spent fuel pool,” said Hiroaki Koide, an assistant professor at Kyoto University’s Research Reactor Institute and one of the experts raising concerns. “Any radioactive release could be huge and go directly into the environment.”

Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, expressed similar concerns during a trip to Japan last month.

The fears over the pool at Reactor No. 4 are helping to undermine assurances by Tepco and the Japanese government that the Fukushima plant has been stabilized, and are highlighting how complicated the cleanup of the site, expected to take decades, will be. The concerns are also raising questions about whether Japan’s all-out effort to convince its citizens that nuclear power is safe kept the authorities from exploring other — and some say safer — options for storing used fuel rods.

“It was taboo to raise questions about the spent fuel that was piling up,” said Hideo Kimura, who worked as a nuclear fuel engineer at the Fukushima Daiichi plant in the 1990s. “But it was clear that there was nowhere for the spent fuel to go.”

The worst-case situations for Reactor No. 4 would be for the pool to run dry if there is another problem with the cooling system and the rods catch fire, releasing enormous amounts of radioactive material, or for fission to restart if the metal panels that separate the rods are knocked over in a quake. That would be especially bad because the pool, unlike reactors, lacks containment vessels to hold in radioactive materials. (Even the roof that used to exist would be no match if the rods caught fire, for instance.)

There is considerable disagreement among scientists over whether such catastrophes are possible. But some argue that whether the chances are small or large, changes should be made quickly because of the magnitude of the potential calamity.

Senator Wyden, whose state could lie in the path of any new radioactive plumes and who has studied nuclear waste issues, is among those pushing for faster action. After his recent visit to the ravaged plant, he said the pool at No. 4 poses “an extraordinary and continuing risk” and the retrieval of spent fuel “should be a priority, given the possibility of further earthquakes.”

Attention has focused on No. 4’s spent fuel pool because of the large number of assemblies filled with rods that are stored at that reactor building. Three other reactor buildings at the site are also badly damaged, but their pools hold fewer used assemblies.

According to Tepco, the pool at the No. 4 reactor, which was not operating at the time of the accident, holds 1,331 spent fuel assemblies, which each contain dozens of rods. Several thousand rods were removed from the core just three months before so the vessel could be inspected. Those rods, which were not fully used up, could more easily support chain reactions than the fully spent fuel.

While Mr. Koide and others warn that Tepco must move more quickly to transfer the fuel rods to a safer location, such transfers have been greatly complicated by the nuclear accident. Ordinarily the rods are lifted by giant cranes, but at Fukushima those cranes collapsed during the series of disasters that started with the earthquake and included explosions that destroyed portions of several reactor buildings.

Tepco has said it will need to build a separate structure next to Reactor No. 4 to support a new crane.

The presence of so many spent fuel rods at Fukushima Daiichi highlights a quandary facing the global nuclear industry: how to safely store — and eventually recycle or dispose of — spent nuclear fuel, which stays radioactive for tens of thousands of years.

In the 1960s and 1970s, recycling for reuse in plants seemed the most promising option to countries with civilian nuclear power programs. And as Japan expanded its collection of nuclear reactors, local communities were told not to worry about the spent fuel, which would be recycled.

The idea of recycling fell out of favor in some countries, including the United States, which dropped the idea because it is a potential path to nuclear weapons. Japan stuck to its nuclear fuel cycle goal, however, despite leaks and delays at a vast reprocessing plant in the north, leading utilities to store a growing stockpile of spent fuel.

As early as the 1980s, researchers, including those at the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission, started warning of the risks of storing growing amounts of nuclear fuel in pools. The United States has since concluded that densely packed pools are safe enough, but Tepco says that it never even specifically studied the risks posed by the pools.

“Japan did not want to admit that the nuclear fuel cycle might be a failed policy, and did not think seriously about a safer, more permanent way to store spent fuel,” said Tadahiro Katsuta, an associate professor of nuclear science at Tokyo’s Meiji University.

The capacity problem was particularly pronounced at Fukushima Daiichi, which is among Japan’s oldest plants and where the oldest fuel assemblies have been stored in pools since 1973.

Eventually, the plant built an extra fuel rod pool, despite suspicions among residents that increasing capacity at the plant would mean the rods would be stored at the site far longer than promised. (They were right.)

Tepco also wanted to transfer some of the rods to sealed casks, but the community was convinced that it was a stalling tactic, and the company loaded only a limited number of casks there.

The casks, as it turns out, were the better choice. They survived the disaster unscathed.

Hiroko Tabuchi reported from Tokyo, and Matthew L. Wald from Washington."
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
May 27, 2012 - 07:40am PT
We contributed to two PDX efforts raising money to buy imaging Geiger counters for local monitoring groups in the affected areas so they don't have to depend on the government. The family we met while they were hosted here last summer to give the kids a break have finally moved away to western Japan despite heavy family pressure to stick it out. But fear and prejudices are still rampant and they can't let anyone know where they are from. Definitely a case of feudal culture and technology not mixing well at all on a societal level.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
May 27, 2012 - 09:38am PT
It's awful to see the old culture get whanged over the head, metaphorically, by a disaster out of sci-fi, basically. The nuclear proliferation in Japan is such an ill-conceived way for an island nation to produce energy that I snort every time I think of the irony of how the nuclear age began in that island.
People buy into government garbage only because they have no real concept of the truly monumental changes "modernization" and "economy" bring to the table. When the smoke's cleared, the scope of the disaster will be so much wider than just Japan, too. But will others learn from history? I'm skeptical not enough will to thwart the schemes of men with a lust for yen.

healje, so far as the feudal society goes, you always got cher plebes, and then you got cher nobles: they never mix.

Not bad for 6 a.m., eh?

Bargainhunter, the Factory Outlet salutes your effort in producing that report. Domo, suckah.
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