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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Jan 30, 2019 - 07:58am PT
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But gawd I do kind of feel I might need to get the popcorn out.
Why not? You helped cook up a good batch of it after all:)))
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 08:01am PT
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I'm sober today and thrilled to be.
Yesterday I bought 2 big boxes of wonderful stone slabs being sold by the children of a recently deceased rock hound. One has Petrified Wood, the other Agates, and two small pieces of a stone named "Indian Blanket" which comes from what is now Death Valley NP and thus can no longer be collected. This is an honor, to carry forward with goods collected by a person such as this, as the true American Rock hound of today is very rare indeed. He died, near blind and in his ,90s, in May last year. This was his last go at the Quartzsite rock shows after 40 plus years.
Edit: Ionlyski, I have apologized for my part.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Jan 30, 2019 - 08:03am PT
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You have a good heart Happy
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, Bozeman, the ocean, or ?
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Jan 30, 2019 - 08:12am PT
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Up front apologizes for thread drift but...
One has Petrified Wood, the other Agates, and two small pieces of a stone named "Indian Blanket" re
When you’ve crafted them into one of your pieces, please let me know.
Susan
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Jim Clipper
climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 08:14am PT
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Best wishes to all on their journeys. John M, you're a good dude.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 09:33am PT
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Susan, I still have the nice Deschutes you liked to work a setting. These new slabs are going to be a while as I am getting "behind" on the new pieces, trying to do a mix of cabs of my own and ones purchased. Staying in Quartzsite this year was a really good choice for me.
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John M
climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 10:05am PT
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You are welcome Aaron. I'm glad that you are working the steps to get your head screwed back on straight. Best wishes to you and thanks again for doing the best that you could. I believe that getting therapy is one of the best things that you could do and thats what I hope for Brandon. But its his choice to make. We can't make those choices for others.
BJ,, if its not a big deal, then you should be able to ignore it.
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John M
climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 10:23am PT
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uh.. you are the one who said their situation wasn't a big deal. I thought power crux's toxicity was a big deal. So its kind of different.
To me power crux was a big deal, so I didn't ignore it.
To you Brandon and Aaron's situation isn't a big deal, so why can't you ignore it?
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 30, 2019 - 01:30pm PT
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Bah, its been a long time since I got rickrolled.
Here's a more mournful drunk song for the soundtrack. [Click to View YouTube Video]
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 03:12pm PT
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John told Aaron it was a tough crowd. He was forewarned. But I know how it feels to be having people talk smack at your expense.
If Aaron is reading this, he maybe could "understand better" to know that even though this is the Sobriety Thread, there are people who read/post on it that are just regular folks with no dependency issues they're considering addressing, some sober who take issue with the AA program, and some who just talk smack because they can. A mix, and not popluated by only people trying to get/stay sober.
I have cringed though, at some of the personal details (like ".... should have taken video"). That's inappropriate. Full stop. Aaron - keep the focus on yourself. But I would agree with those who have said it is probably for the best you not post here.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jan 30, 2019 - 05:23pm PT
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Aaron, don't worry about the haters, I enjoy your writing / musings / whatever you call it. You've got an interesting writing style and take on things. Sounds like you learned a lot from this episode, in the "we learn from our mistakes" way.
Also don't worry about being seen as an interloper on this forum (ST). As far as I can tell from reading it (and posting on it) for many years, the owners of the forum don't have a lot of current interest it other than occasionally ad hoc banning people when they get enough complaints, the whole thing is a bit of a relic from another era, in more ways than one, although there's still some good content.
Bottom line is what John M wrote: it's easy enough for anyone to ignore you and Brandon who isn't interested; if they start complaining, you can bet they're hanging on your every word, it's the old "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 06:47pm PT
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Why don't you shut it up now BJ as you're the same as you say Aaron is.
You just can't stop yourself either.
You're a hypocrite .....
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John M
climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 07:34pm PT
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no good deed goes unpunished.
Thats not what he learned. he learned that you can't force a person to do what they aren't ready to do. You can try, but, it rarely works.
I learned that in a lot harder way.
I laid myself bare on this forum more then a few time. It made a lot of people very uncomfortable. So uncomfortable that some turned mean. But others were stand up and helped me. The experience made me a lot stronger.
over the years I also learned that being afraid of revealing the mess did nothing to help me clean up the mess. In fact it prolonged the mess.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 08:02pm PT
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Please guys. Can we just stop trying to figure this all out and let what will be, be? This infighting doesn't help any of us. It just puts distances between us.
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D Murph
climber
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Jan 30, 2019 - 09:29pm PT
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Brandon,
I shipped you some dollars at the beginning of this even though I've never met you.
You might not use it wisely, and although I hope that won't be the case I'm okay with the risk. FWIW like Werner and possibly Jim Brennan my intention was to help with the treatment part. Feels a little weird, not really sure what I'm contributing to any more.
I've never been through it but some close to me have, so from my humble but quasi-informed perspective I hope you'll consider staying there a little longer (or going somewhere sober, since it sounds like you have already left).
Hey when you climb you read topos, right? Why not listen to those who have gone before you with this?
Truth is: you're stuck with it whether you like it or not. And so is anyone who cares about you.
Send it, man!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 31, 2019 - 08:42am PT
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hey there, say, caylor.... you did well, to make a place for folks to
come here, and share-- as to your TOPIC and journey...
as to this, wow-- thanks for sharing... good solid news to
hang onto, for you:
Jan 29, 2019 - 07:20am PT
A short "small town sobriety story".
So! My wife and I bought a crazy house on the Western Slope of Colorado, Glenwood Springs about 18 months ago. Far away from Boulder/Eldo/Golden where we'd been for many years. There's tons of meetings in Boulder and Golden and nearly a constant social stimulus to keep an alcoholic occupied. The old AA saying goes something like "you only need 2 alcoholics and a resentment to start a new group", well the Front Range has a shitload of that.
Here on the Western Slope there's sooooo many fewer meetings weekly and the distances can be disconcerting as the population is tiny comparatively. It's been really hard for me to stay spiritually fit and focused, I've been really good, progress not perfection, but not fully able to get 90 days and 6 months to click together like I did back in Boulder..
However, in the last 6-8 months a new homegroup was started right in my town, walking distance from my house that I now chair as my service position. As well, a brand new beginners meeting has blossomed over the last 2 months that's also quite close to my house. It started with 4 people, 4 people(none beginners except sort of me), then 5 people, then 7 people, 11 people. This is when I ordered a pile of chips just in case any newcomers actually ever showed. But the meeting's blossomed and we gave away 3 24hr chips last week, lots of tears and laughs. Living in a town of less than 5,000 people can seem like a curse if you let it, but it's really blossomed for me, which is the most important thing right? ME? Just kidding.
Keep fighting the good fight folks and please keep posting here, it's like a virtual meeting?. Live hard, pray harder!
Caylor
have not read any other post, yet, as to brandon's situation, as there is some long ones here, i can't do that right now...
but, hope things are going to turn out, for the good...
oh my...
awwww, the ol' edit:
as to this ... your FIRST post on your thread-share here:
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 12, 2010 - 01:36pm PT
Tomorrow night, good lord willing and the creek don't rise, I'll be at a month. I did 2 years and 2 months with no problems, until I relapsed. F*#k has it been hard this time around.
I'm the Hankster, I'm supposed to climb sick sh#t and the hit the pub and get faced for ever. At 40 years old, this style is just not that glamorous anymore. All the cool pictures on the Taco have everyone holding a beer. I can't be one of them and it kills me.
I've been climbing hard for 27 years and drinking was always apart of the scene, when did it all change? No DUI's, No job loss, just shame at unacceptable behavior. F*#k.
I'm going to pick up my chip Sunday morning for 1 month, it just feels so empty somehow. I mean, once you get to 1 month, who friggin cares? Not looking for sympathy, it's my deal. I just needed to get this off my back.
Now back to politics and religion!
Caylor
you've come a long way...
and, when one 'makes a trail' to a 'goal' ... well,
there is hopes that other CAN make the trail, too...
each trail may go differntly, but-- if one human can 'forge' on,
another can too...
you give folks hope, hankster... keep enjoying that new trail...
one little bit of light, shining in the DARK,
can and does--
draw others...
collected light, shining then--
can draw more, and give even more hope...
ps-- hug the wife and pupdogs, for me...
:) tell them, i said 'hey there' :)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 31, 2019 - 08:53am PT
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hey there say, jebus h bomz... wow, was just getting off line...
have not had a chance to read all these, as to those hoping and helping
a fellow climber, but-- just as i posted, i did see this, as, the
'numbers' here 'jumped' ...
say, as to your quote:
this was very sweet and very kind...
(to give out of kindness and hope)
Jan 31, 2019 - 08:30am PT
Y'all didn't give your money for an amazon delivery that didn't arrive. Brandon may or may not "sober up" - whatever that means in this decadent, completely addicted to everything society - but you gave your money away out of kindness and hope and that still means something no matter what may result. You can't control his recovery and choices, you just voted in favor of the guy and his redemption with a little cash. I'd suggest a little temperance in responses and to love and let God, as they say.
if one never tries, well, one never knows what 'could have been'...
:)
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Jan 31, 2019 - 04:01pm PT
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Jebus gets it..
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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Jan 31, 2019 - 04:42pm PT
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Aw Neebster! Thanks for reminding me as I never go back to the 1st post I ever did to get this topic rolling. Several things I would have said differently but I had no idea at the time. Having to come to the realization and actually admit, and then face the fact that I'm not like everybody else and in the shittiest way was soooo crazy difficult.
Surrender fully, rigorous honesty. I was very surprised this thread had the staying power it did. Knowing I'm not the only one who's life is a full blown repeating train wreck is very very helpful to me. Even though I don't know most of you personally it means so much. More than I could explain.
I love you Neebee, those reflections and words you posted meant the world to me just now.
Hankster
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