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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Mar 12, 2009 - 06:54pm PT
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back in the day, meet a hot chick, hey want to go climbing? take'em toproping, enjoy the view of tight T&A, hit hot creek or the tubs, who knows what next......GUILTY AS CHARGED :)
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Mar 12, 2009 - 06:54pm PT
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"The older you get, the less complex it gets. It's not good or bad, it just is."
You must be talking about the "being hit on" part... I'd think that as gravity takes hold of a woman whom is well endowed, the climbing part of it might become more complex. You could literally be tripping over yourself, instead of tripping on your partner's intentions! ;)
edit: seriously, who's not enamored with attractive people of the opposite sex? OK, other than gay folks. I suppose it all comes down to social manners in general and how you go about feeling out the situation. There are guys (and gals) that are simply obnoxious and there are those who have the sense and tact to go about things in an appropriate manner.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Mar 12, 2009 - 06:57pm PT
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" Have you ever been attacked, physically forced into something?"
If that is what you are talking about, that is very serious and its time to get the police involved. I thought you were talking about a little innocent flirting by people you're not interested in.
If you are "desirable" (attractive, cute...) you WILL receive attention whether you are climbing, going to NASCAR rallies, attending a church picnic, or anything else. You have to accept that you won't be attracted to most of the people who are attracted to you. That's the way the math works.
I still think that most would rather be desirable and put up with everything that includes, rather than not. There are people reading this thread who wish they shared your problem.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:04pm PT
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" There are always two sides! That is why I asked what is YOUR solutionto to this situation? How would you like a girl to conduct herself towards you? What do you feel is owed/ not owed to you?"
Be very clear as to your intentions right from the start. If you nip it in the bud before they've had a chance to "fall for you" or feel that you were "leading them on" you won't have to deal with resentment and hurt feelings later.
Edit: You don't owe anyone anything, but this is one solution to your situation.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:07pm PT
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I've had the great pleasure of climbing with a stack of hot girls over the last 30 something years of cragging. Of course, I've always considered "hot" any female who can follow 5.6 or better, so perhaps my bar is a little low but so be it. Anyhow, to be perfectly frank, I'm almost certain that a part of me (ranging from one to ninety-nine point nine percent, depending on the relative curvature of the given female, her mien, humor, wit, et al) has wanted to pork every girl I have ever seen at every crag I have ever visited in my entire life. That's just the way that part of me rolls. That part used to drag me roughshod over all manner of choss and pebbly bulges and flawless splitters. I've learned to lash that part off to pretty good pro though the rigging is often sketchy and the chance of shock-loading is sometimes high. Total anchor failure rarely happens these days and it's taken some time to learn to work wih a stiff or weighted rope. But it is possible.
JL
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:10pm PT
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I think the words " hey I'm only intereted in climbing with you, not sleeping with you dirtbag! " would give me the idea that the lady is not interested in sex, and we could continue to have a happy day climbing.:)
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:15pm PT
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V. funny Johno. Enclosed pls find a shot from BITD:
Babe the Blue Ox and admirer
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:15pm PT
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As always, very well said, Largo!!! I think you're describing most of us out there...
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2009 - 07:23pm PT
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All women have that problem! It's why fathers are so protective of daughters. It has nothing to do with attractiveness. Being female does make life interesting.
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:34pm PT
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:36pm PT
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The best quote I've heard referring to a fathers concern for his daughter is (it's crude but to the point)
With a son, a father only has to worry about one di@!, with a daughter he has to worry about every di@! in the world.
And I totally agree with Largo. The fact the only female partner I got involved with was my wife has more to do with my lack of social skills, than what was going on (or not) in my head.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:38pm PT
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"All women have that problem!"
Some more then others.
"It has nothing to do with attractiveness."
Report back to us in 30 years and we'll see if you changed your mind on that.
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Mar 12, 2009 - 07:47pm PT
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"With a son, a father only has to worry about one di@!, with a daughter he has to worry about every di@! in the world."
We invited the local beat cop to our neighborhood watch meeting a couple of months ago. There had been some gang related shootings one block away. When asked about the level of gang activity in the 'hood I learned that they pay more attention to where the girls live than the guys since the guys are more likely to congregate around the girls' places and get in fights w/ each other there.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 12, 2009 - 08:57pm PT
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I already did that, Roy, to stand in while you're under the
weather, or bridge, whichever. . .
:-)
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Mar 12, 2009 - 09:27pm PT
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Anyone's motives, including our own, in connecting with another person, are worth being conscious of...
and that goes beyond sexuality.
People seek all kinds of needs and advantages in connecting with others. Sex, Money, Prestige, Security, Mobility, and Training. Which ones are legit and which ones are sh#t?
I even get paid to take people climbing (including, not surprisingly, other's wives who need a partner who won't misbehave)
Certainly a hidden agenda is unwelcome in any case.
Sometimes the trophy wife and sugar daddy know the deal, but may even become close over time.
Sometimes we lie to ourselves.
Men should have respect in any case.
Women should ask themselves in cases of unequal partnership skills "Would this guy be taking me climbing if I were a friendly guy?"
Sometimes the smell of the flower is enough.
The dynamics of how we use each other are funny.
A women might complain "That guy just wants to use me for sex and that's wrong. If he's not willing to consider supporting me for the rest of my life, he shouldn't think of sleeping with me."
A guy might think "*()*& (&)(*( (&*)()" (untranslatable penis language)
Life...Ain't it a grand paradox that's hard to get right?
PEace
Karl
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 12, 2009 - 09:41pm PT
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eastside, weren't you known as the CA sex god?
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 12, 2009 - 11:01pm PT
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Methinks that cat's mousehole has been pursed for effect. Real spooky otherwise. No way that's a real cat's piehole. Okay, kibblehole.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 12, 2009 - 11:06pm PT
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I dig that cat!
He's an odd one for sure.
(Agreed Mimi)
OK Steve W 'busted me, so I will come out from under the bridge for just a second.
Karl laid out some good perspective on all of this just then...
So much of this social complexity of any kind comes down to empathetic skills.
Forget about the cross-dressing for a moment and imagine if guys and gals could swap experiences for a week. How then might we react differently to another, once we knew just what it was like to be in those so very uniquely "other" shoes.
For a guy to really know what a woman goes through when she's being hit on (or not) and conversely for a woman to understand a man's drive....
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Mar 12, 2009 - 11:10pm PT
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Don't be mean to underbite kitty! Come on - he's like a laid back, cool cat!
Karl wrote that thing about would the guy who climbs a lot harder take you out if you were a nice guy.... I gotta say Now I am confused! because I get a lot of guys who will get out there with me - who DON'T try to hook up - and also who climb with me regularly. So....maybe if I was just a nice guy - then yeah. They would. or maybe not. Maybe being a woman takes away some pressure of some sort. But I also know that if a guy is flirting or acting icky or whatever hitting on me and I don't want it, I can pretty much stop them with a look.
Practice...the look, Anastasia! Each of us has our own. Unique. "Look."
But warning: Until you find your own "the look," expect a lot of misinterpretations from all those horney guy...hahahah
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Double D
climber
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Mar 12, 2009 - 11:25pm PT
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Largo..."it's taken some time to learn to work wih a stiff or weighted rope."
bahawawaw!
I always thought it was just a leash, I mean a rope can have soo much slack in it... I'm just say'n.
(-;
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