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lucaskrajnik
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 17, 2009 - 11:38am PT
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Thankyou apostle.
good thread...:D
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Flanders!
Trad climber
June Lake, CA
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Feb 17, 2009 - 11:40am PT
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Can't fade yet, Walleye needs the Lord.
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mdavid
Big Wall climber
CA, CO, TX
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Feb 17, 2009 - 12:21pm PT
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i only have one question for him
jesus, wtf were you doing sitting your lazy ass in heaven while millions of African people who you supposedly love are being f*#ked beyond all belief, you non caring as#@&%e.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 17, 2009 - 01:45pm PT
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This took me nearly 3 hours to accomplish on an iPhone 3G...
When I finally succeeded, I said: "Thank God!"
-and I really meant it (believe it or knott).
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 17, 2009 - 02:16pm PT
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JEBUS = DINGUS?
Lord knows he's suffered enough on this earthly plane for our sins...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 20, 2009 - 12:40am PT
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Just thinking today.....If our lives are not ordered by God then all is random chaos.
If there is order in Nature because Nature orders itself, what orders human life on a day to day basis ? Or are all people's decisions random, sporatic actions with no measure of any cohesiveness to create order to an individual's life ?
Lynne
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Place or Another
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Feb 20, 2009 - 01:09am PT
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Nice Trip Report, Apostle!
Any pictures?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 20, 2009 - 02:08am PT
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Nice Trip Report, Apostle! Any pictures?
I heard he took a bunch of pictures, but lens flare caused by a burning bush ruined them all.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Feb 22, 2009 - 09:08pm PT
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just received an email from a former student who recently graduated from uva; mdavid, if you really want to know what jesus is doing about africa, read on (by the way, what have YOU done for africa?):
"Dearest Friends & Family,
Hello from South Africa! The sun is shining, the wind is blowing, the colors are vibrant, and oh, how wonderful it is to be back on this beloved continent.
To bring everyone up to speed, I arrived here in Johannesburg at the start of February to begin working at three different Joburg orphanages: Baby Haven, Child Haven, and Sparrow Village. Back in December, within the space of a month, what began as an exciting opportunity to play music with some kids abruptly transformed into a new season of life working in orphan ministry and using music to bring joy to kids who have been victimized by the orphan crisis of South Africa.
It has been a beautiful thing to arrive here and to come face-to-face with the Church in action. Here are men and women walking into hospitals full of abandoned babies, taking the most needy home, and finding families to adopt all of them. Here is a 70 year-old nurse who works 16-hour days, 7 days a week, to take care of kids affected by AIDS. Here are kids being taken off the streets and out of the settlements and ghettos, being loved, prayed over, and rescued. I've never seen such amazing testimonies of faith with deeds before.
For at least the next five months, I am so thankful to have the opportunity to work alongside these ministries and to help care for the kids. Here's a brief run-down of the three places I am working:
Baby Haven:
If you've ever so much as let the idea of adoption flash across your mind, how I wish you could come visit Baby Haven! This place of refuge takes in babies who have been abused, neglected, or abandoned and keeps them in loving hands until the right family comes along to adopt them. The stories of where these babies are coming from are far too often absolutely heart-wrenching; but here they are healthy and loved. For the next month, I'm working at Baby Haven several days a week, changing nappies, getting lovely lumps of butternut porridge spit back in my face, and getting to tuck beautiful tired babies into bed for naptimes.
Child Haven:
This children's home is where I will be spending the majority of my 5 months in SA. It is filled with 12 kids from the ages of 3 to 9, some orphaned and others in long-term foster care. For those of you who've got nice little families of 2,3, 4 or 7 kids, imagine throwing another handful in and having 12 of them sit down and wait patiently at the table for dinner to be served. Bedtime often sounds a bit like World War III, and heaven help us when the ice cream cart pulls up outside! What a big happy family, though, and it's wonderful being Auntie Amanda. A big treat has been pulling out the guitar and doing music with the little kids, and on Friday I converted my room in the cottage into a mock studio and the big girls got to record a song with the microphone! The most exciting part for them was hearing their own speaking voice on the computer – none of them had ever heard their own voice recorded before, let alone heard themselves sing. Oh, to see the wonder of a child!
Sparrow Village:
I wish I had the words to convey the depth of an experience at Sparrow. It is a miracle and a tragedy at the same time. Miraculous in that over 250 kids affected by HIV/AIDS have been taken off the streets, placed in a caring community and a home, and provided with education, clothes, food, and, importantly, daily ARVs (anti-retrovirals). Sparrow won't turn anyone away, and everyone, child and adult alike, is helped. But the tragedy is found in that simple fact: for every additional child that arrives, the small funds that Sparrow receives are stretched just one step further…to the point that each housemother is in charge of anywhere from 14 to 24 children, with one bathtub per household. The beautiful idea of the Sparrow community sadly falls short of providing the quality of life that each child truly deserves.
I brought my guitar over there for the first time yesterday, and soon found myself herded under an awning surrounded by close to 50 kids. We all sat there singing praise songs in English and Zulu until we were out of songs and my fingers were in agony. Lord willing, we can get the music project up and running soon. The best discovery was an entire cottage in the village dedicated to music performance, complete with a speaker system, drumset, and an out-of-tune piano! The first step will be to tune up the piano. Thanks for the donations that will make that possible!
Thank you all so much for your prayers and encouragement. I'll be sure to send out updates every month or so to hit up the big steps in the music project; in the meantime I've started a blog to post pictures, some music videos of the kids, and other stories from the orphanages & Joburg. Feel free to check it every so often if you'd like more info!
The website is: http://miracle-work.blogspot.com/
I hope you are well and blessed, hopefully getting to run and play outside in the sunshine, and having an occasional good naptime in the afternoon.
Much love from SA,
Amanda
James 1:27 ~ Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress…"
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 22, 2009 - 09:16pm PT
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Bookworm, one of the most awesome posts ever on the Taco for this gal. Thank you so very much for taking the time to post it. Since I recently became a widow....what a weird word...I have done some Bible reading about widows and orphans and generally people experiencing loss and a varity of needs.
Pretty much the exploration into these topics has hugely altered my life goals. So far with the help of her family and friends and The Taco Lynnie has managed better than most.
BUT, what about those without all the lifelines I have. That is my primary concern lately.
Bookworm, I did not yet click on your link, but does Amanda have a po box I can write to and mayhap send a donation ? Lynnie
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apostle
Trad climber
heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2009 - 11:17pm PT
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God Bless you Bookworm and your works. God loves everybody.
"How great is the love the father has lavished on us,that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!"
1 John 3:1
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 22, 2009 - 11:25pm PT
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apostle, I think He said it very succinctly when He said, " For God so loved the world (and everymon in it) that He gave His only begotten son. That who evah believes in Him will live forever."
"God has written eternity in the hearts of men". Ec. 3:11
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Place or Another
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Feb 22, 2009 - 11:28pm PT
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Just men, eh?
Rough gig for the rest of creation, that.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 22, 2009 - 11:36pm PT
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Well....and us fems too. He already takes care of all the rest of the creation. See Matthew 5-7.....knows when even a little sparrow dies....clothes the lilies of the field.
It's we hu mans ....and ladies that seem to be somewhat problematic at times, Mr. E. :DD
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Feb 23, 2009 - 09:28am PT
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lynne, i emailed amanda with that very question; i'm not sure what her internet access is, but i will post any info that she sends me on donations
the girl also spent a semester and summer in africa (ghana and malawi, i think) working with aids awareness and treatment... she humbles me, and i can assure you her joy is genuine
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Feb 23, 2009 - 09:31am PT
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OK. It's been over two weeks since this thread began and still no J.C. Maybe the title should be modified to "pretty soon", or "reasonably soon".
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Feb 23, 2009 - 12:38pm PT
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It's sad that people put blind faith in religous indoctrination and act evil, when it's not so hard to figure out what is right and wrong.
If your are evil to your fellow man God won't care if you followed what some religion told you was what he wanted. But if you are a good person you will reap the rewards.
You might be fooled by man's intepretation of God, but He certainly isn't.
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Feb 23, 2009 - 02:03pm PT
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Is he or she here yet? When you say "Very Soon"...I took that to mean like last week or this month? Can you please narrow it down for us?
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jstan
climber
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Feb 23, 2009 - 02:12pm PT
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Is there an expert here?
Did polytheism produce better or worse results?
I know there was a secret society of such existing after the time of Christ and that not only was it stamped out but nearly all subsequent references to it were systematically eliminated.
Perhaps Christ was behind that movement as a second go-round in hopes of correcting earlier errors. Considering the impact he had I think we have to conclude he was a pretty smart dude. That being the case he would have been aghast at what was going on.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Feb 23, 2009 - 02:25pm PT
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"If your are evil to your fellow man God won't care if you followed what some religion told you was what he wanted. But if you are a good person you will reap the rewards."
If you are good because you want to get rewarded, that is just... evil.
Men are flawed (and women) and cannot be trusted when it comes to preaching about God or religion. How can I tell that the guys who wrote the Bible, Qur’an, etc..., were not evil and trying to steer me away from the true nature of God so that they can have more room in heaven themselves. How the heck could I ever know or trust anyone so feeble as man about such a glorious subject as God?
And if Jesus shows up, people won't believe it's him just on faith alone. They will demand proof. Belief from proof is not quite the same as belief from faith now, is it?
Dave
P.S. Good thing I'm an atheist or I'd think we were ALL doomed.
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